Originally posted by: lordjedi

Originally posted by: Rob

Originally posted by: lordjedi

Originally posted by: C3PX
I like how the European articles complained about machine guns being legal in America, when this guy didn't even have one.

And machine guns have been illegal in America since sometime in the 70's. The other semi-automatic rifles that you might see from time to time are just that, semi-automatic.

There's a shooting range in Nevada (near Las Vegas) where you can shoot an Uzi, but to my knowledge, you can't own an Uzi in any state. I may be wrong on that though, living in California tends to make one think that anything "bad" is banned everywhere.

Yeah, you're completely wrong. In most other states you just need the proper transfer fees and other requirements to own an automatic weapon. You dipshits from California seem to have a tendency to provide information based more on the goings on in your own ridiculous state than actual facts.

Way to be an asshole. We're not dipshits, we just live under mostly totalitarian gun control laws.

Since you fail to mention the "other requirements" and almost seem to treat it lightly, here's some links to Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_States

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

The second one is more important since it shows exactly what is required to own an automatic weapon. It's not exactly an easy process. It requires extensive background checks, high fees ($200), photographs, fingerprints, written permission from the ATF before moving the weapon across state lines. In other words, unless you're a firearms collector, you probably aren't going to own any automatic weapons. It's a major pain in the ass and it's not worth it to most people.

So yeah, I was wrong (I said I might be), but that doesn't change the fact that it's not easy to own an automatic weapon in any state.

Time and time again it has been proven that despite the weapon, these nuts will do what they want. As I understand it at present, Seung-Hui used at least one 9mm Glock handgun with what may be several high capacity magazines. Would he have been able to kill more if he had access to a fully automatic weapon? Yes. Would he have killed less people if he would have only limited 10 round magazines? Possibly, but who knows. Could any stiff laws have prevented this? No, I don't think so.

I think that fully automatic weapons should be highly regulated and controlled mainly because I can think of no reason why a regular person should have one. I have been assigned and carried a Heckler & Koch MP5 9mm fully automatic submachine gun. Having fired several thousand rounds through it and trained to use it, I cannot fathom why a regular citizen would need it at all. That said, I do think every decent American needs to own and learn to use some form of handgun, rifle, or shotgun. Having the opportunity to speak with hardened criminals on a regular basis, I have learned every one of them (exempting the few true sociopaths I have met) are greatly fearful of guns and have tried their best to target their victims to someone least likely to have a gun (i.e. women, elderly, late teens) One guy even had performed at least 10 home invasions and when asked how he picked the houses, he stated he targeted people that looked like the would never even consider using a gun. He targeted people driving a Toyota Prius, people displaying multiple religious stickers on their car, people who wore t-shirts proclaiming their liberal tendencies. Simply said, he didn't want to even think of messing with Bubba in a pick-up truck because he could have a gun.

I have also learned in my years of experience that bad guys almost always buy their guns on the unregulated black market.

So no matter how many of these Brady bill idiots get up and try to "control guns" they never realize or acknowledge the fact that they cannot control the illegal weapons trade. So by making more laws to prevent gun ownership, you are only undermining the innocent people from defending themselves. In this instance of Virgina Tech, Seung-Hui legally purchased his firearms, but even if he couldn't have bought them at a store, I'm sure he would have sought out an illegal source and gotten much worse than a Glock 9mm and probably got a Tec-9 much like Dylan Klebold carried at Columbine.

I think you need to arm the good to overcome the bad, gun control freaks want to disarm the good and leave them at the mercy of the bad. That is bad policy and stupid.