Originally posted by: CO
I agree, and when I am rationalizing, I am pulling at straws! This is what happens when you write these trilogies one movie at a time, there are things that just don't work out if you inspect them with a fine tooth comb. LOTR is a perfect example of a movie trilogy that flows fluidly because it was planned that way from the books to the big screen, as they honestly feel like one big movie instead of 3 individual movies like the OT. I still love the OOT very much, so even though you guys are shooting holes in my theories, I still love it enough to overlook it.
Originally posted by: Anchorhead
I think you guys are giving Lucas way too much credit for writing a thorough story. It doesn't appear as though he thought things through at that level. He just came up with stuff and worried (or not) about continuity later.
Look at how ”no, there is another” was handled. He wrote and filmed that scene before he had any idea at all who the other actually was. He was letting a finished film be released to the theaters with a cliff hanger scene used to set up the next movie - as well as a possible second trilogy - and yet he had no idea about who was being referenced - in his own story. It’s one thing to hash out ideas in a story or script - and I’m sure it’s routine in the business - but he actually filmed a very open-ended plot hole. A plot hole he never resolved properly.
Man, that's sloppy.
I think you guys are giving Lucas way too much credit for writing a thorough story. It doesn't appear as though he thought things through at that level. He just came up with stuff and worried (or not) about continuity later.
Look at how ”no, there is another” was handled. He wrote and filmed that scene before he had any idea at all who the other actually was. He was letting a finished film be released to the theaters with a cliff hanger scene used to set up the next movie - as well as a possible second trilogy - and yet he had no idea about who was being referenced - in his own story. It’s one thing to hash out ideas in a story or script - and I’m sure it’s routine in the business - but he actually filmed a very open-ended plot hole. A plot hole he never resolved properly.
Man, that's sloppy.
I agree, and when I am rationalizing, I am pulling at straws! This is what happens when you write these trilogies one movie at a time, there are things that just don't work out if you inspect them with a fine tooth comb. LOTR is a perfect example of a movie trilogy that flows fluidly because it was planned that way from the books to the big screen, as they honestly feel like one big movie instead of 3 individual movies like the OT. I still love the OOT very much, so even though you guys are shooting holes in my theories, I still love it enough to overlook it.
Actually, the LOTR books work out wonderfully. The movies not so much (at least if you listen to the commentaries). Things were changed so much in TTT that they then had to change things in ROTK, even though they didn't want to.
I agree about everything else though.