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Originally posted by: C3PX
(really reminds me of Star Trek VI ), but what it does do it does well.


Why did the Klingons bleed pink in that movie?

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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Originally posted by: C3PX
(really reminds me of Star Trek VI ), but what it does do it does well.


Why did the Klingons bleed pink in that movie?


Red blood was too violent, so they made it pink instead. Every where else Klingons bleed red. I love how Star Trek fanboys try to make up excuses like the lack of oxygen, or some chemical that was released in the ship that turned the blood pink when mixed.

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That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard. Why not just make it red blood and take the higher rating? It came out in 1991, for crying out loud. PG-13 existed.

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Maybe with that much blood they were looking at a R rating, though I doubt it. If you imagine those scenes with red blood it seems a lot more grusome though. Actually that would be a cool fanedit, Star Trek VI: The Red Blood Edit

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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I should suggest that to someone at The Other Site. (Or maybe just to ADM here.)

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That would be pretty cool. I imagine it wouldn't be too hard to do. I might have attempted it myself if I had the know-how and the time. It might be one of the few worthwhile edits, they could restore the original ending too maybe.

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When I said "stripping the film of its realism" I didn't mean in terms of how the blood looked I meant it in terms of how much there was. Just thought I would explain what I meant. And on another note, is anyone planning to see it again? I might go watch it again this weekend.


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i loved the movie, don't get me wrong, but did anyone else notice that all Gerard Butler did to prep for the role was watch Braveheart over and over again

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I was thumbing through the comic book today, having heard many times from many places that this was scene for scene an adaption of the comic book, I was actually surprised with how different it was (don't take me the wrong way here, almost every panel of the comic is in the film, but the film add and takes liberties.)

What surprised me is some of the most comic bookish moments of the film were no place to be found. For instance the scene with the "orc" sort of thing, not in the comic. The scene with the fat beast with blade arms, not in the comic. Those two scenes were the fakest and silliest scenes in the film and neither were in the graphic novel (those to scenes made me feel like I was watching Van Helsing or something equally as poorly done). The comic is actually very serious compared to the movie. I really like them both (well, only read the first issue of the comic and thumbed through the rest, but it is very well done IMHO. This is coming from a guy who has never really been a fan of Frank Miller either).

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Originally posted by: generalfrevious
I saw it yeaterday, and it had a lot of CGI blood for some odd reason; My dad went with me and couln't handle the violence.



That's because he's a big wuss


300 was an okay movie, the effects sucked (I do not like CG look at all) but I did like that they learn to kill as a necessity at such a young age, my boy is 7 and he can control and fire 22 cal. rifles & pistols so far, my 40 cal is a bit too much so I think I should teach him to knife fight soon since he can already wield a toy saber rather effectively!

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I'm going to see the film again tomorrow night with my friend. On a scale of 1 to 10, this gets an 8. Crazy fight scenes, but the premise is a little flimsy and scenes like the half-goat thing dancing made me laugh.
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Originally posted by: crazyrabbits
..but the premise is a little flimsy...


...But it's based on something that actually happened! (Yes, I know it didn't happen the way the movie depicted it, but the premise of 300 Spartans holding off all those Persians until they found a different passage was real.)

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Yeah, I don't see the premise being so flimsy. It was based on a real event and adapted from a comic book. Sure kicks the pants off crap like Troy and Alexander. It did a lot better of a job depicting Greeks than they did (Persians are way off though). I think it is funny how bad the reviews for this movie are compared to the crap load of money it is pulling in.

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Originally posted by: C3PX
Yeah, I don't see the premise being so flimsy. It was based on a real event and adapted from a comic book. Sure kicks the pants off crap like Troy and Alexander. It did a lot better of a job depicting Greeks than they did (Persians are way off though). I think it is funny how bad the reviews for this movie are compared to the crap load of money it is pulling in.


You're surprised that the liberal press doesn't like a movie where a bunch of European white guys kick the butts of a bunch of Middle Easterners until one of their own betrays them?

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Factual it aint. Entertaining it absolutly is. That makes a damn good trade off to me.
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Originally posted by: C3PX
Yeah, I don't see the premise being so flimsy. It was based on a real event and adapted from a comic book. Sure kicks the pants off crap like Troy and Alexander. It did a lot better of a job depicting Greeks than they did (Persians are way off though). I think it is funny how bad the reviews for this movie are compared to the crap load of money it is pulling in.


I'd have to agree. The premise really isn't flimsy. It doesn't depict it very accurately, but it does what it sets out to do. Make a kick ass film and show the courage of these 300 men. And I think the way persians are are depicted is actually kind of symbolic of what the greeks must have thought of them; cold, heartless bastards. The movie is obviously shown from the Greek perpective, which is why it shows so many fantasy elements as well, like the guy with swords for arms. Greek myths exaggerate things, and the movie gives you hints of this. That's what makes 300 so great; it shows a battle from the perspective of the Greeks, the "heroes," and shows it from thier myths and legends.

And I think that it is a testament to Frank Miller's genius that a movie based off a comic "kicks the pants off crap like Troy and Alexander." Those movies must have had 3 times the budget 300 did, along with more professional, seasosoned filmmakers attached. But 300 flys miles ahead of them. I'd say comic have come a long way since the 10 cent Superman comics of the 40's, and Frank Miller had a huge influence in that. (If anyone here hasn't seen Sin City yet, go rent it ASAP. It's about as good as 300, but in a totally different way.)
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This movie was perhaps the best purely-action-oriented movie I've ever seen. Very enjoyable. There certainly wasn't anything truly deep about the story and the comic book-ish elements decreased the depth even further, but I'm definitely not saying that's a problem. Movies like this just don't usually leave me very attached to them in any sentimental way. Though the character portrayals and the acting were very good I think, considering what the movie was aiming for.

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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Originally posted by: crazyrabbits
..but the premise is a little flimsy...


...But it's based on something that actually happened! (Yes, I know it didn't happen the way the movie depicted it, but the premise of 300 Spartans holding off all those Persians until they found a different passage was real.)


I know what happened at Thermopylae. I did a study on it in my Grade 12 History class. What I'm saying is that in the context of the film, there isn't much more than "Oh look, Xerxes took over everything, and only me and my men can stop him". I mean, I liked the movie (enough to see it again on Friday night with my friend), and it works as a pure action film, but it is what it is.

On another note, everyone in the audience laughed at the goat in Xerxes' tent. Both times.
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Yeah, the goat thing pulled me right out of the movie. It was just a little far fetched, and should have been left out.


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The goat musician was awesome. I thought that was so freakin' cool that they had the guts to put that in. It fit the style of the movie completely in my mind. You were all thinking that the story was uber-serious?

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Originally posted by: Tiptup
The goat musician was awesome. I thought that was so freakin' cool that they had the guts to put that in. It fit the style of the movie completely in my mind. You were all thinking that the story was uber-serious?


Well, considering that, along with that thing with the knife-hands, he's one of the two distinctly non-human characters in the film, and also considering the fact that he just comes out of nowhere for five seconds bobbing his head around, then yes, it WAS ridiculous. The audience I was with first were muttering "what the fuck" when knife-man showed up, and then the goat got a large amount of laughter.

What's worse is why he relates to this story. He's just kind of...there. It's never explained if he speaks, why Xerxes hired him (although I'm sure he goes over great at parties), and what his function is, aside from window dressing. It's a campy moment in an otherwise serious scene when hunchback man is being tempted by the dark side, so to speak.
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I've gotta go with Tiptup here. I don't see how the goat is any more ridiculous than any of the other goofy stuff. And the movie had PLENTY of goofy stuff. But it doesn't matter. It's not a by-the-book account of the battle, rather a great looking, albeit shallow, film that apologizes for nothing and is solely interested in demonstrating what the definition of "ass-kicking" is. And it succeeds.
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Originally posted by: crazyrabbits
Originally posted by: Tiptup
The goat musician was awesome. I thought that was so freakin' cool that they had the guts to put that in. It fit the style of the movie completely in my mind. You were all thinking that the story was uber-serious?


Well, considering that, along with that thing with the knife-hands, he's one of the two distinctly non-human characters in the film, and also considering the fact that he just comes out of nowhere for five seconds bobbing his head around, then yes, it WAS ridiculous. The audience I was with first were muttering "what the fuck" when knife-man showed up, and then the goat got a large amount of laughter.

What's worse is why he relates to this story. He's just kind of...there. It's never explained if he speaks, why Xerxes hired him (although I'm sure he goes over great at parties), and what his function is, aside from window dressing. It's a campy moment in an otherwise serious scene when hunchback man is being tempted by the dark side, so to speak.


Xerxes was also portrayed as a giant man. I hope that didn't bother you immensely. At least at some point I'm hoping you would have been able to get into the fantastic mindset. The movie's based on a comic book after all and that's what comic books do. More comic book-to-movie adaptations should be like this in my opinion. Otherwise, perhaps Ridley Scott will make his version of the Battle of Thermopylae and then you'll be much more happy.

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Xerxes, size was never a fantastical thing with me, because giants or people taller than 8 feet tall have existed in the past. Like, Galioath( if you believe the Bible). So I was never thrown off by his size. Also the giant guy with the swords never bothered me because skin and tissue will grow around things. Cut the arms place the swords inside sow up the wound around the swords, and eventually skin and tissue will form around the object. It is like the brain, when some foriegn object gets in your brain say like a bullett or nail, your brain tissue will grow to the object and form recepters to it ( if you survive the accident). It doesn't recognize it as anything other than tissue so it grows to it. But I have never seen any record of a goat acting like that goat did. It was completely wrong.