Originally posted by: Erikstormtrooper
C3PX, I'm not sure if you've read it in this thread, but I've had a similar idea about Episode III and the lava scene. Except I take it one step further, and have Anakin actually die, and Obi Wan sees it happen. Then the Emperor retrieves his body and brings him back to life as Vader (with heavy modification of the construction of Vader scenes so that Anakin's body is motionless). This goes along with my "Power of the Dark Side" idea: it's Vader's loyalty to the Dark Side that keeps him alive. If he betrays his master, he ceases to live. If you think about how Obi Wan talks about Anakin in the OT, and how Vader says he must obey his master, this starts to make a lot of sense.
About the birth scenes in Episode III, I think the entire scene should stand as it is, with the exception of Padme naming both the twins. It makes no sense to have her name Luke but not Leia. The scene aboard Tantive IV is weak anyway ("Yeah, let's hide him with his family and let him keep his last name. Great plan!), so the entire discussion of the twins' fate should go, including "My wife and I have always wanted a daughter." (Maybe the tail end of this scene can be saved, where Yoda tells Obi Wan about his training on Tatooine.) Luke can be dropped off (it is a beautiful scene, and a good one to close on), but not Leia.
Musicman, I'm not positive, but I don't think Leia is referred to as Organa in ANH.
I would love it if Leia could not be Luke's sister (sorry to step on your EU, people). But I think it will be very hard to pull off. I don't see how Leia and Han can have any kind of reolution without it. Han should have died, but he didn't. We have to deal with that and work with what we have. So Han needs some kind of resolution.
C3PX, I'm not sure if you've read it in this thread, but I've had a similar idea about Episode III and the lava scene. Except I take it one step further, and have Anakin actually die, and Obi Wan sees it happen. Then the Emperor retrieves his body and brings him back to life as Vader (with heavy modification of the construction of Vader scenes so that Anakin's body is motionless). This goes along with my "Power of the Dark Side" idea: it's Vader's loyalty to the Dark Side that keeps him alive. If he betrays his master, he ceases to live. If you think about how Obi Wan talks about Anakin in the OT, and how Vader says he must obey his master, this starts to make a lot of sense.
About the birth scenes in Episode III, I think the entire scene should stand as it is, with the exception of Padme naming both the twins. It makes no sense to have her name Luke but not Leia. The scene aboard Tantive IV is weak anyway ("Yeah, let's hide him with his family and let him keep his last name. Great plan!), so the entire discussion of the twins' fate should go, including "My wife and I have always wanted a daughter." (Maybe the tail end of this scene can be saved, where Yoda tells Obi Wan about his training on Tatooine.) Luke can be dropped off (it is a beautiful scene, and a good one to close on), but not Leia.
Musicman, I'm not positive, but I don't think Leia is referred to as Organa in ANH.
I would love it if Leia could not be Luke's sister (sorry to step on your EU, people). But I think it will be very hard to pull off. I don't see how Leia and Han can have any kind of reolution without it. Han should have died, but he didn't. We have to deal with that and work with what we have. So Han needs some kind of resolution.
Hmm...the Anakin dying thing is interesting, and gets rid of Obi-Wan leaving Anakin to die--it's more like he just kind of freezes, unable to come to a decision, only able to stand and watch in horror. The only thing is, if Palps really is able to bring someone to life, then if Anakin knows that this is what happened, then he's going to say that they have to go bring Padme back. So the only way you can work that is that it's at least fairly clearly that Anakin wasn't cognizent of his death--that he doesn't realize that's what happened. Otherwise we'll have to do some serious dubbing. I like the idea, but we do need to make sure we can execute it well.
Yeah, if you can save the end of the Tantive IV discussion, then that would be good. C3PX, as far as filling out the end, we can at least have the Dagobah arrival. It's not much, but it's more there. On the other hand, I'm wondering what the effect would be, after seeing that scene in the movie, once you get to ESB. And that brings me to another thought--do we want to have the Qui-Gon speaking to Yoda stuff, a la ADM? I thought that was pretty cool, and the dialogue during the spinning shot addresses Yoda's guilt over the situation effectively.
If the name Organa isn't mentioned, then you're safe. And, yes, it's true, I can't think of a way to resolve the triangle without the brother-sister thing... *sigh* maybe in twenty years when they've got perfect CG and voice duplication, we can do this thing right!
So, basically the flow would be birth/masking sequence, Obi-Wan and Yoda talk about Qui-Gon, Yoda goes to Dagobah, funeral, Tatooine, and credits?