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Battle for Naboo Re-Edit (Completed)

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Hey all.

Seeing as I’m new here, let me give a bit of a back story.

With the help of some people on JWfan.net, I finished putting together quite possibly the most extensive fan made release of Star Wars music ever with my 4 disc (nearly 5 hours), complete score of Episode I including alternate takes, unused cues, interviews, live performances, concert recordings…etc.

Well, I was talking to someone recently and they were very interested in the fanedit and were familiar with my edits on YouTube (under the name " BrachioInGen " ). He asked me if I would consider doing one of “The Great Duel.” I said sure, and started out by lookng for unused material, as I’d been told the reason they used different music was because it was re-edited.

Well, I tested that theroy and found it to be false. That the track actually fits quite well, if not beig too short actually.

It then occured to me that I had found unused shots in the DVD feturettes (that’s all I use plus the film) from earlier parts of the film, so I decided to go back and make a complete edit using my complete score.

The changes were extencive. I had to change orders of shots, remove things, restructure parts… and in the end, I gained a far better understanding of what exactly John Williams was saying with the cues: what specifially was the music meant to accompany.

And this is the result.
 

The entire sequence is broken down. A lot of things with the gungans were restructured as well as the hangar battle. Jar Jar moments were, strangely enough, almost entirely eliminated. Shots are moved around to where they are meant to be and music is synced up appropriatly with the action. Several unused shots are re-incorporated into the sequence as well.

Now, you’re probably wondering “How can you POSSIBLY know how things were in the original cut?”

My answer, I worked with what I know:

I know John Williams has specific visual cues he tries to accompany.
I know the order of the cues.
I have the original cues.
and I have a good eye for this sort of thing.

So, all of this combined, I can say that the edit I’ve made is quite nearly what the original cut was. There are undoubtedly differences, but I can say that the general idea is the same and the evidence is in the videos.

So… take a look, let me know what you think…
 

NOTE: I had originally hoped to include the film SFX in the videos as well. I ripped all the audio channels and did my best to diminish the music and just leave the SFX… unfortunately, there were too many scenes where the music was simply too prolific and without blasting your eardrums out, there wouldbe no way to distinguish between what as where.

Also, certain scenes like “Anakin Takes Off” and “Battle for Naboo III” are very nearly how it is in the film. Unfortunately, in the fim, they seem to have purposely moved the music off of the visual cues established by the score. I wanted to match the cues, so hearing both the film and mine being slightly off from eachother was another drawback which led me to the decision to simply use music and video.

 

Star Wars Symphonic Forces Reconstruct: “Battle For Naboo” Part I

Part I

Cues Used

  1. Gungan March (Original)
  2. The Battle Begins
  3. The Battle for Naboo I
  4. The Battle for Naboo II
  5. Hangar Battle
     

Star Wars Symphonic Forces Reconstruct: “Battle For Naboo” Part II

Part II

Cues Used

  1. The Duel Begins
  2. Anakin Takes Off
  3. Duel of the Fates (Original)
  4. The Battle For Naboo III
  5. Droid Battle
     

Star Wars Symphonic Forces Reconstruct: “Battle For Naboo” Part III

Part III

Cues Used

  1. The Great Duel
  2. The Invisible Wall
  3. Gungan Retreat
  4. Anakin’s Crash Landing
  5. Qui-Gon’s Death (Original)
  6. The Caged Animal

-B


Is it not sad that in this time, we are more surprised by acts of love than acts of hate?
-Me

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WOW! This is the coolest thing I have scene regarding a musical preservation effort! Would you consider uploading your 4 disc set as a torrent or parts of it to rapidshare? I would love to have these in high quality for reference and archival purposes. I am not trying to pressure you or anything, but this is soooo awsome and I would love to hear those unreleased and alternat cues and the live performances!

P.S. After watching those videos I am suprised at all the music I have never heard!


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Wow! Great Work, GoodMusician!!!!!!
I really don't understand why Lucas didn't let the old music stay in there.
Like Marvolo, I'm interested in this 4 disc set of TPM music you mentioned. Where did you get it????
And could you please upload it somewhere???

Master Qui-Gon

Master Qui-Gon/TheRealDealReloaded On Youtube

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Wow. I am a huge John Williams fan and I'm thrilled that you've done this. Great job!

I don't want to push you, but like the others, it would be incredible if you could upload your set to rapidshare or megaupload in pieces- I would absolutely love to hear it

Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side

Emperor Jar-Jar
“Back when we made Star Wars, we just couldn’t make Palpatine as evil as we intended. Now, thanks to the miracles of technology, it is finally possible. Finally, I’ve created the movies that I originally imagined.” -George Lucas on the 2007 Extra Extra Special HD-DVD Edition

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Call me crazy, but I thought that the sending out of files and stuff like that wasn't allowed by the boar rules...

I remmeber reading that somewhere lol..

As far as where it came from, I made it using video game rips from almost every Lucas Arts game that came out. I also made sure that th release dates predated Episode II so that there wasn't any crossover. I did those separeately, as I did as well with Episode III.

I mean, if I'm allowed to I will, I just thought it was against the rules and that I would be banned for even so much as having this conversation...

Thanks for the kind comments on the videos. If you have any questions, let me know. Some people on JWFan are contesting some of the parts saying that the music is incorrect, but I happen to disagree with them lol...and with good reason... so if you have any questions. I'm willing to answer them :-D


Is it not sad that in this time, we are more surprised by acts of love than acts of hate?
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GoodMusician, you are allowed to set up a PIF (pay it forward) chain or a torrent you just can't directly link to a torrent on this website. Also, you can talk about this and distribute your four disc set, because it is a preservation effort and that and fan edits is what this site is all about. Once again no pressure, but I hope you will consider uploading this somewhere because all your star wars videos on youtube are amazing, and I would love to see and hear more.


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you just can't directly link to a torrent on this website.


You can't? It happens all the time here.

hedge your bets: just say "I put it on (insert torrent site here) just search for (insert name of torrent) when you're there"
The Best Show You've Never Heard
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Sorry to be so confusing guys. I just had read the rules and that's what it said. the person who directed me to this site--because they said you all had some great edits and stuff and that you might be interested in mine--said to be careful about distributing things, even through PM...

it's why I'm not.

I brouht it up with one of the head people. They said I could as long as it didn't inclue anything from the Album or UE... The problem is that the set does. It relies heavily on both. Things that arn't on them, I took from video games to correct them as the UE is woefully edited and the Album is like most JWs, incomplete and not meant as a score, but just as a separate entitiy.

If you want to read about my efforts for episode I, read this thread here:
Episode I

Or for Episode II-III
Episode II-III


Is it not sad that in this time, we are more surprised by acts of love than acts of hate?
-Me

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Excellent job Good Musician. Have you ever thought about taking those videos and making a DVD of your Symphonic Force series?

I truly wish some of the cues in Episode I's final battle had survived. I really like the additional footage of the lightsaber duel and believe the quick cross cutting in Part 2 ramps up the momentum of that sequence since the focus isn't on any one battle for long.

I've always thought Episode III's opening could have used more music to help with the rhythm of the sequence once they board Grevious' ship and the dropped music does help. I love the cue when you see Grevious' ship after Obi-Wan and Anakin have been captured. I don't know how anyone can watch those moments with and without music and decide the music free versions are better.

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I'm afraid that I'm still a bit behind the curve. I still use Windows Movie Maker :-p

If I weere going to do a DVD release, It would have to be nearly flawless... wich would mean a new editing program, a new DVD burning program (as the ones I have don't give too much leeway) and some time (which I have).


I, personally, have trouble watching Episode III without all that music... THere is still maybe 30 seconds of unreleased, unused music, unfound... about 15 seconds is used in the film (from the blowing up of the shield generator to right before landing)... but there was meant to be more to cover the landing and most of the fight...and the music that plays at the landing in the film was meant for latter and would have segued directly into General Grevious. If I could find that, I'd re-do that whole sequence... starting from Main Titles to "Another Happy Landing."

I havn't watched Episode I since a while before I made the edit, so I'm sure when I go back to re-watch it I'll cringe a lot then too...

Thanks for the kind words and ideas... Maybe one day I will put these all to DVD... heh


Is it not sad that in this time, we are more surprised by acts of love than acts of hate?
-Me

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Thanx 4 sharing these.

I'd also love to see & hear them at the highest quality.

E Chu Ta!

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If I ever did that, I think I'd go back and play with them... fix a few errors and such..

I used Windows Movie Maker before... so you can imagine the loss of quality. I now have a really great program and could go back and re-edit these and fix those errors... not to mention make a much better edit and save it as it's original quality... so... if I do ever decide to go back, I'll let you know.

:-D


Is it not sad that in this time, we are more surprised by acts of love than acts of hate?
-Me

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Holy crap, GM! Just watched part 1, and it rocked! Made me feel like I was watching a real John Williams Star Wars movie in spite of Lucas's blunders. Nice work.