Originally posted by: C3PX
Exactly. My point was that games CAN have good stories in them, but for some silly reason it has become far too accaptable for their stories to suck. There story lines don't have to be bad, and it doesn't take that much effort to put a decent story in it. The most it would ever take would be paying an extra guy.
ghost, the whole "before you were concieved" comment came from your "grandfather" comment. It has nothing to do with logic, I was just playing around. I guess I could turn it around and say that if you used some logic you would no I am not a grandfather, but I don't think that is true (I damn well could be a grandfather for all you know
), what is to say you are not an 11 or 12 year old sitting at a computer, that would mean you were born in the mid nineties, thus not having been around in the early nineties. I just don't see what is so "grandfatherish" about mentioning games from the early nineties. Calm down man.
I am in no need of waking up, and yes, I don't think all game stories are of crap quality. The ones Nanner just listed have fantastic plots, and there are others with great plots too, and no, my standards are not low. Plenty of people would agree with me that Grim Fandango was some excellent story telling. Proof that games don't have to be crap. It is doubtful Nanner or I would remember or even care about Monkey Island had the story line been garbage, instead I will never forget that game. I appreciate effort being put into gameplay, and I even appreciate games like Pac-Man where there really is no story line. Sometimes no story at all is less insulting to our intelligence than some of quickly thrown together nonsense story. I am not asking for Martin Scorsese, just a little bit of thought.
Exactly. My point was that games CAN have good stories in them, but for some silly reason it has become far too accaptable for their stories to suck. There story lines don't have to be bad, and it doesn't take that much effort to put a decent story in it. The most it would ever take would be paying an extra guy.
ghost, the whole "before you were concieved" comment came from your "grandfather" comment. It has nothing to do with logic, I was just playing around. I guess I could turn it around and say that if you used some logic you would no I am not a grandfather, but I don't think that is true (I damn well could be a grandfather for all you know
), what is to say you are not an 11 or 12 year old sitting at a computer, that would mean you were born in the mid nineties, thus not having been around in the early nineties. I just don't see what is so "grandfatherish" about mentioning games from the early nineties. Calm down man.I am in no need of waking up, and yes, I don't think all game stories are of crap quality. The ones Nanner just listed have fantastic plots, and there are others with great plots too, and no, my standards are not low. Plenty of people would agree with me that Grim Fandango was some excellent story telling. Proof that games don't have to be crap. It is doubtful Nanner or I would remember or even care about Monkey Island had the story line been garbage, instead I will never forget that game. I appreciate effort being put into gameplay, and I even appreciate games like Pac-Man where there really is no story line. Sometimes no story at all is less insulting to our intelligence than some of quickly thrown together nonsense story. I am not asking for Martin Scorsese, just a little bit of thought.
For the sake of this discussion in terms of entertainment if someone was to compare the Plots/Stories of some widely accepted good movies vs. the stories of some good stories from games, I really don think that game stories can reach the level of movies'. I don't know many people who have come across game stories that have pulled at their emotions or had them chocked up at scenes, and to be honest if people get emotional over video games IMO thats a little nutty, I didn't get a lump in my throat when Aeris got smoked by Sephiroth. In terms of the quality of story telling in all its aspects IMO there is a better way to experience it other than video games, and I don't think if someone was to experience storytelling purely from a video games standpoint (even just the good ones) they would ever experienced the best that storytelling has to offer. Storytelling for a video game will always be flawed because it is never the singular focus of the project.