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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION — Page 29

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Hey, adywan!
I’m really digging what you’re doing with this edition!
I’ve been blown away with the videos and pictures you’ve posted.
I loved the escape from mos eisley clip you posted! The new shots help sooo much!
I haven’t had anything worth posting for a while…until I started thinking about something…
Have you considered putting in a scene where Vader finds out about Luke?
I feel it is important to have this scene in ANH.

Some people have suggested to leave it as it is.
I think it depends on what you want to accomplish with your own edit.
If I recall correctly, you are (eventually) planning on playing around with all six films. And the things you have been editing and adding to ANH leads me to believe you want all six films to play even more seamlessly back to back…Even more so than Lucas. Well, that obviously brings Anakin closer to the foreground of the story. So we’re not just telling the story of Luke, but also the story of Anakin.

If that is the case, shouldn’t Vader finding out about his own son be a scene worth showing?
OK, Vader finds out between ANH and ESB.
Is it lame from the standpoint of the Star Wars Trilogy? No.
Is it lame from the standpoint of the Star Wars Saga? Yes!

I know some people are on board with the idea, but they would rather reuse the scene from ESB and tweak/edit it. I’m not a big fan of this idea. The main reason being that the only scene with the emperor (from ESB) would then be gone. Why remove the *only* emperor scene in The Empire Strikes Back?

And I understand everyone’s concern about fabricating an entirely new scene for *any* of the movies.
But after seeing what can be done by watching your edit, I feel this could and should be done.
However, we all know it’s pretty much impossible (even after watching what you’ve done) to insert a scene where Vader lands on Courascant (spelling?), talks with the emperor, and finds out about Luke.
But what if it happened on his TIE? We could have it happen right after the death star going boom.

Officer: “Lord Vader, we’ve just intercepted some data from the rebels on who single-handedly destroyed the death star. His name is Luke Skywalker.”
Vader: “Skywalker…”
Officer: “I will transmit the rest of the data to you and the emperor immediately…”
Vader: “No…I will deliver it to the emperor myself.”
Officer: ”As you wish, Lord Vader.”

Anyway, something like this. This basic information would need to be communicated in the scene.
It could be said several different ways. But the idea is for Vader to find out and let the audience believe he will tell the emperor, only to find out in ESB that he hasn’t. Plus it’s finally obvious in ESB that he’s lying to the emperor's face!

You could easily record a voice for the officer, but Vader’s voice could be tricky. You might be able to piece some lines together using existing dialogue-…actually, I guess that’s the only option. That, or if you could find a ridiculously good impersonator.

Now, just using existing Vader footage, reverse, slowdown, and/or rework it. If you need longer shots of Vader (because his inserts are pretty quick) in the latest version of adobe after effects you can slow any piece of footage down significantly without it looking like it.

For those who want a peak at it:
http://www.adobe.com/products/aftereffects/newfeatures.html >> See it in action >> Timewarp.
It’s amazing! I wish I had the money for this!
(P.S. I haven’t checked that link in a while. I hope it still works.)

I don’t have daily internet access right now, so I won’t be able to check immediately, but please reply, adywan (and anyone else)…I’d like to read your thoughts!

Here are some mockup shots. I did the Courascant ones for fun:
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k168/SSWR/ANH_Vader_01.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k168/SSWR/ANH_Vader_02.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k168/SSWR/ANH_Vader_03.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k168/SSWR/ANH_Vader_04.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k168/SSWR/ANH_Vader_05.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k168/SSWR/ANH_Vader_06.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k168/SSWR/ANH_Vader_07.jpg

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Attack of the Clones: Alternate Timeline Edit Thread:
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/SSWRs-Attack-of-the-Clones-Alternate-Timeline-Edit/id/66888

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Now that would be a real treat to end the movie with! Is it even do-able though?
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That would be such a fantastic scene to lead into the finale, it seems not out of the realm of possibility of creating too. The only thing would be rotoscoping the plate footage for the imperial officer's over the shoulder shot since the background/screen wall of the Executor is seen because of the transparency issue. I hope some thought goes into making a scene like this.
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it is a nice idea, but dramatically, not strictly necessary. it starts to telegraph stuff.

in empire strikesb ack, vader knows about skywalker. its nice our imagination can fill in the blanks as to how he knows.

too much is as bad as too little.

take the wampa example. in the original ESB there's tons of menace because we don't really see it. its hints here and there, rather like a horror or jaws. come the SE and you see lots of it and it spoils things in a way because it takes away the menace. for me, the same rules apply here.
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Perhaps instead of using this scene to telegraph Vader's realization that "Skywalker" blew up the Death Star, the scene can create an ambigious ending where Vader, the ONLY survivor, of the Death Star has to report the bad news to the emperor.

Officer: “Lord Vader, we picked up your distress signal on our long range scans. Is...is it true about the battle station?”
Vader: “It is indeed. Prepare for my arrival.”
Officer: “Lord Vader...shall we transmit the data to the emperor?”
Vader: “No…I will deliver it to the emperor myself.”
Officer: ”As you wish, Lord Vader.”

Maybe this can work? I think using Coruscant would work better too rather than using the Executor, since the big reveal in "Empire" would be dimished. The whole idea of a short range fighter getting back to the capital may seem far fetched but hey in terms of drama, suspension of disbelief can work wonders in getting a point across, plus Coruscant makes for a better image in the distance.

Maybe even adding in Star Destroyers surrounding the planet also adds to the image.
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I do like the idea of having this as an epilogue to the movie, possibly after the credits. This would be similiar to the one ADigitalMan did for his edit of ANH. I think it played very well there.
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This concept has been going around forever, but that's a very good visualization of it, SSWR.

Using the Executor does diminsih it's "reveal" in ESB, but also gives you more options than just the TIE cockpit as in theory you could expand on what ADM did and use some if not all of the ESB conversation in altered form. As for removing the Emperor's only scene in ESB, I dont't have much of a problem with that because as things stand, it's very out of place there. That's a conversation that should have taken place at the end of ANH or in between ANH and ESB, but back in 1980 Lucas wasn't so keen on going back and altering his previous work, so we got it in ESB.

In any event, if a scene like this is created, I think it should take place in the film as opposed to a post-credits extra, simply because that's not how Star Wars does things. Now, if EVERY film had a post-credits extra it would be something to think about, but to have it in one and not the others just doesn't work, IMO.
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Originally posted by: AvatarXThe whole idea of a short range fighter getting back to the capital may seem far fetched but hey in terms of drama, suspension of disbelief can work wonders in getting a point across, plus Coruscant makes for a better image in the distance.

Maybe even adding in Star Destroyers surrounding the planet also adds to the image.



I love the idea of him returning to Coruscant. Plus, Vader's advanced tie fighter does have hyperspace capabilities, so it wouldn't require suspension of disbelief.


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Plus, Vader's advanced tie fighter does have hyperspace capabilities, so it wouldn't require suspension of disbelief.


As an aside, how cool would it be to see Vader's ship emerging from hyperspace, and then move into the dialog portions?

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Snap! That looks so good, SSWR! After seeing that, I think it's a worthy inclusion if only as a bonus "deleted scene." As CC said, it's been tossed around so many times, it would be wonderful to see that realization of it, in front of our faces!!! Definitely worth consideration.

And those troopers below the platform look really cool. Nice touch!
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surely by this point in time the Empire has a bit of a strangle hold on things right? I don't have any problems with the idea but surely he could approach some random imperial harbour. - rather than the long journey to coruscant. Remember that the falcon traveled thru hyperspace from Tatooine to Alderaan and it still took a while to get there.
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The extra vader clip could be inserted right after the luke-leia-han arm in arm scene (just before the medal ceremony) since some time has passed for luke to get dressed in his flashy gold jacket. If it was done right, the scene could be fun. Maybe adywan could be the imperial officer...
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Wow, 30-something pages! Well this was probably suggested before, but on the very first page, the picture of Darth's TIE, and two accompanying TIEs leaving the hangar - the three ships move as though they are stuck to the same stick. When they bank, the left ship rises, the right ship falls. They don't rotate on the axis of their own forward motion. (The other shot where the multiple TIEs dive, they all bank individually - that's what Darth's little cluster of misery should do.)
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some time has passed for luke to get dressed in his flashy gold jacket.


And for R2 to be rebuilt and polished up

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Originally posted by: SomethingStarWarsRelated
And a no vote on the hologram in the DS conference room. It would just look weird. And who would it be? And why would it be there. I wouldn't want to see it unless there was a point in the plot.

Well, I *will* say this: If that change were to happen, I picked that particular guy on purpose. You only see him in that panning shot.
And the whole idea behind this was that I'm thinking PT. This scene makes me think of the Jedi council room scenes.
However I don't have a plot point for this idea.




Dont know if this too late or been mentioned before and its probably totally impossible there anyways but why not have a hologram of the Emperor there maybe saying he's dissolved the senate before his hologram fades and then the meeting carries on. Obviously this means removing Tarkins line but it would get the Emperor into the film and theres plenty of holo footage of him available, possibly even using some of the seated Darth Sidious shots from TPM.

Worth mentioning anyways

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Well things are picking up speed now. I've just completed all rotoscoping for the lightsabers & lasers. I've been messing about with some music for the duel and I've found that i can have the battle of the heroes theme included in the score, but i'm not going to tell you where it fits in perfectly but it does give the exact emotional feel that i was looking for. Just started the TIEs vs Falcon shots now.

Some interesting ideas there SomethingStarWarsRelated. I am hoping to add a scene with Vader & the Emperor directly before the throne room scene. I want to do it in a way that i won't have to lose the scene in ESB. I think that the new dialogue for the holo scene in ESB seems really out of place so i want the emperor to inform Vader about luke in this film.

I haven't had chance to read through all the posts because i've been too busy. but when i get enough time i will reply to all your ideas & comments as soon as i can.

Anyway, I've just completed the final Trailer for REVISITED. I've uploaded it to rapidshare and i will be posting it to a.b.starwars later tonight. Its about 57mb because i decidd not to post an xvid because of compression so its animorphic MPEG at full DVD resolution. The bitrate is a lot lower than the final movie will be so i could keep the file size down. It contains a few more new shots and will also be the last shots ever posted until its all finished and released. I don't want to give too much away although it does contain the opening of the duel its has been edited to fit the trailer so won't appear this way in the finished film. All shots, apart from one (the death star battle shot) are finished effects and will appear as they are here in the final version.

Enjoy

STAR WARS REVISITED FINAL TRAILER

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WOW!!

I love what you did with Obi-Wan's death, now there is even a burn mark on his cloak!! the sabers look beautiful on the duel, I have a question though, Is Obi-Wan going to ingnite the saber on that shot like it was on the trailer, or is it still going to be the way it was in the original?

Damn, I'm speechless, thanks for doing this Adywan, May can't get here soon enough.
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The trailer looks amazing Adywan! I know you said everything outside of the Death Star battle in the trailer are finished shots, but the hyperspace tunnel that the Falcon is flying through looks odd to me. I think that it might look more natural if you made the tunnel move faster and applied a slight spin to it as well.

Can't wait to see this!
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I don't think I had seen any of those FX shots in motion. I could say a lot of things, but I'll leave it at this..

1. WOW
2. You're making Lucasfilm look absolutely ridiculous
3. Keep up the incredible work

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Bloody hell that was just Awesome
I hate it when you see a Trailer and you wanna see more DAMN
Apart from that it looks amazing I looking forward to the end Battle Sequence
never liked some of the model shots that were originally used
anyway once again, your work on this project has been outstanding
just cant wait for it all to be finished


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Adywan, this looks incredibly amazing, and I can't wait to see it.

I have a feeling I'll have to watch it several times for all the awesomeness to sink in.

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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Adywan, superb trailer !!!