Originally posted by: Trooperman
That's quite a list, CC
The thing is, once I finish my preferred cut of SOTDS, all of the other cuts you've listed would be pretty easy to do. The question is whether I want all of these alternate versions out there, which (in my opinion), would be quite inferior to the real thing. 3 out of those 4 versions are movies that go against my (and Mark Haslett's) idea of the Anakin character. This is kind of out there, but what if somehow McCallum, Lucas, or any number of other people were to sit down to watch this thing? I wouldn't want them watching the "Lucasfilm experience", or the "MagnoliaFan experience". I would want them watching the version I set out to create. This is kind of an extreme example, but I guess the point is that this has the potential to wind up a lot of different places, and I want to have the satisfaction of knowing that people are watching "my" version, so to speak- the version I put the time into and the version that I am happy with.
Also, I don't want to steal MagnoliaFan's thunder, as he will be releasing his official Ep. II in the near future; I know I brough it up, but on second though it probably wouldn't be the best plan. We have different editing styles anyway...
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Here's what I think is the best plan: I will release my cut of SOTDS in the next couple months. I MAY include an alternate Hayden track as a surprise, but that's not clear yet.
Then, I will release a dual-layer version with PCM stereo on my version and Dolby Digital commentary.
Then, after a while, I'll see if there's even a demand for anything else. If there is an overpowering cry for a MagnoliaFan compatible version, for example. But what would seem to me to be a better effort would be to work on finishing this trilogy instead of trying to make SOTDS conform to other series. LTH has already offered to do Episode I, but he's going to need some help. At bare minimum, he'll need new Nemodian recordings from Sluggo and Co. and the main title theme from me.
To do Episode III, I will need to do ADR, and we'll also need Nemoidians and stormtrooper actors from SOTDS. Hopefully, another editor will come forward to do this, as I will probably not be able to do another movie on this level. I'll explain more about myself personally after I release SOTDS.
We also need to have a major discussion at some point after the release of SOTDS, about where to go from here, editor-wise and storywise (does Maul=Grievous? Should Sidious be removed from Ep. I? etc.)
After all ANH used the same voice actor for 3 characters (commander on Tantive 4, barkeep & Dodonna) and is glaringy a dubbed voice but i haven't seen many ( if a any) people complain about that.
Wow! Didn't know that. I knew the commander and the bartender were dubbed, but I had no idea that all three were done by the same actor...
But seriously, thanks again to all of you for your comments, ideas, and encouragement. As I continue to encode the video (which I will complete before going through the audio with a fine-toothed comb), it is so exciting for me to watch- even without the audio.
I can't wait for you guys to see this movie.
That's quite a list, CC

The thing is, once I finish my preferred cut of SOTDS, all of the other cuts you've listed would be pretty easy to do. The question is whether I want all of these alternate versions out there, which (in my opinion), would be quite inferior to the real thing. 3 out of those 4 versions are movies that go against my (and Mark Haslett's) idea of the Anakin character. This is kind of out there, but what if somehow McCallum, Lucas, or any number of other people were to sit down to watch this thing? I wouldn't want them watching the "Lucasfilm experience", or the "MagnoliaFan experience". I would want them watching the version I set out to create. This is kind of an extreme example, but I guess the point is that this has the potential to wind up a lot of different places, and I want to have the satisfaction of knowing that people are watching "my" version, so to speak- the version I put the time into and the version that I am happy with.
Also, I don't want to steal MagnoliaFan's thunder, as he will be releasing his official Ep. II in the near future; I know I brough it up, but on second though it probably wouldn't be the best plan. We have different editing styles anyway...
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Here's what I think is the best plan: I will release my cut of SOTDS in the next couple months. I MAY include an alternate Hayden track as a surprise, but that's not clear yet.
Then, I will release a dual-layer version with PCM stereo on my version and Dolby Digital commentary.
Then, after a while, I'll see if there's even a demand for anything else. If there is an overpowering cry for a MagnoliaFan compatible version, for example. But what would seem to me to be a better effort would be to work on finishing this trilogy instead of trying to make SOTDS conform to other series. LTH has already offered to do Episode I, but he's going to need some help. At bare minimum, he'll need new Nemodian recordings from Sluggo and Co. and the main title theme from me.
To do Episode III, I will need to do ADR, and we'll also need Nemoidians and stormtrooper actors from SOTDS. Hopefully, another editor will come forward to do this, as I will probably not be able to do another movie on this level. I'll explain more about myself personally after I release SOTDS.
We also need to have a major discussion at some point after the release of SOTDS, about where to go from here, editor-wise and storywise (does Maul=Grievous? Should Sidious be removed from Ep. I? etc.)
After all ANH used the same voice actor for 3 characters (commander on Tantive 4, barkeep & Dodonna) and is glaringy a dubbed voice but i haven't seen many ( if a any) people complain about that.
Wow! Didn't know that. I knew the commander and the bartender were dubbed, but I had no idea that all three were done by the same actor...
But seriously, thanks again to all of you for your comments, ideas, and encouragement. As I continue to encode the video (which I will complete before going through the audio with a fine-toothed comb), it is so exciting for me to watch- even without the audio.
I can't wait for you guys to see this movie.
I definitely agree that your only focus at the moment should be your version. The biggest thing I could see is reinstating the original Star Wars theme. And that just made me think of something: what is happening for the opening of the end credits? Are you just using the original end credits opening, or are you adapting the Korngold theme for that (perhaps adjusting the pitch...?)
As far as your voice is concerned, that take 2 of the nightclub scene alleviated all concerns for me. The only issues remaining after seeing that are purely technical: syncing it up properly, mixing, that sort of thing. But after hearing that, I think your vocal quality and acting will be just fine--maybe more than fine!

As far as Episode I goes, I think we need CC's take on this. I'm hesitant to speak too much as I'm not in charge.
Disclaimer: All comments pertaining to Episode I and other Starkiller projects contained in this post are NOT necessarily those of the Starkiller management. There we go.

I just bumped up the Starkiller thread so that if we need to take any overflow of this discussion over there, we can. As far as I am concerned, I'm still up for music editing, and I'd love to continue the project. Now, if LTH is wanting to do this, then we have two major options that I can see: a) the Starkiller Ranch project as originally planned, with or without LTH; b) an "executive producer: Trooperman" edition of the other episodes, with LTH in charge and whoever is going to help, doing so with as much guidance as you want to allow to make it as close as possible to what you would've done. From there you can do combinations of these approaches, but those are the two main things I can see. It's up to CC. I would like to see the "Trooperman produced" versions, as you have a very certain unique style and approach that is all its own, whereas Starkiller Ranch is largely a more collaborative thing. So you could end up having two very unique branches of editing that still all correspond back to SOTDS, the foundation of all of this. At least, that's how I'm seeing it. You can correct me if I'm wrong. But that's why I think it would be a good idea, if possible, to go both ways.
If we wanted to, both camps (the straight-up Starkiller Ranch and the LTH-headed Trooperman edition) could correspond, particularly on effects and stuff, and that way if there is something that is definitely something that would be done in both versions, then both camps can share certain shots, etc. For instance: if the projects branched, and both wanted Maul to be Grievous, then potentially they could share whatever shots etc. are being used to make that happen, if that makes any sense.
I don't know who else is still up to doing Starkiller Ranch. For a while I had heard that we were simply waiting on SOTDS so we have a more firm idea of where we're taking this. I know that you had hoped that maybe adywan could help us with SFX on the Starkiller Ranch saga. I think all of the dubbing is a good idea that could carry over to Starkiller if we wanted it to--again, it's up to CC. That's really the bottom line: CC is in charge of Starkiller Ranch, and we need to know where he stands on this. These are, however my two cents, and food for thought.
I am definitely excited to see SOTDS!