Originally posted by: CO
The reason it comes off so jarring is Lucas changed the context of the movie after shooting the original turn scene. If you listen to the ROTS commentary by Lucas, he is suprisingly candid about how he reconfigured the movie after the original shoot, and how his original vision got changed.
Yeah, I remember when Zombie first described the change. It helps everything make more sense in terms of how the movie was made. It just really leaves much to be desired. I preferred the new approach actually; it gave Anakin a personal reason for turning (one where he became likable for the first time), it simply just wasn’t good enough to explain what he then went on to do (at least not in a way where he remains likable at all).
In actuality though, the real fault in this situation was George’s sloppy thinking. He changed his mind while making the prequel trilogy and decided that someone as evil as Darth Vader should never be able to repent and be redeemed. So he invented some bullshit about the good Anakin Skywalker being killed by the evil Darth Vader (in his head or something) and then being resurrected by his two children in Return of the Jedi (somehow). He actually thought that was a brilliant idea I’m guessing.
Originally posted by: 20th Century Mark
I always thought "turning for Padme" was the last straw so to speak. He was going to go to the dark side regarless. He always was seeking greater power. He was always angry, jealous, and wanted control. There are hints of this all through the PT. Also, I think Palpatine was great at influencing people, messing with their heads. Be it from the force or not.
The reason it comes off so jarring is Lucas changed the context of the movie after shooting the original turn scene. If you listen to the ROTS commentary by Lucas, he is suprisingly candid about how he reconfigured the movie after the original shoot, and how his original vision got changed.
Yeah, I remember when Zombie first described the change. It helps everything make more sense in terms of how the movie was made. It just really leaves much to be desired. I preferred the new approach actually; it gave Anakin a personal reason for turning (one where he became likable for the first time), it simply just wasn’t good enough to explain what he then went on to do (at least not in a way where he remains likable at all).
In actuality though, the real fault in this situation was George’s sloppy thinking. He changed his mind while making the prequel trilogy and decided that someone as evil as Darth Vader should never be able to repent and be redeemed. So he invented some bullshit about the good Anakin Skywalker being killed by the evil Darth Vader (in his head or something) and then being resurrected by his two children in Return of the Jedi (somehow). He actually thought that was a brilliant idea I’m guessing.
Originally posted by: 20th Century Mark
I always thought "turning for Padme" was the last straw so to speak. He was going to go to the dark side regarless. He always was seeking greater power. He was always angry, jealous, and wanted control. There are hints of this all through the PT. Also, I think Palpatine was great at influencing people, messing with their heads. Be it from the force or not.
Yeah that’s certainly reasonable. You simply need to then conclude that he was a psychopath though.