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Requiem for a Clone War dream... (2003 series) (* unfinished project * - lots of info)

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In short: ‘clone wars’ shorts reworked into a theatrical style feature.

I’m sure this has probably been done before but I thought I’d be a fun project while some other things are on hold. The audience I’m aiming at is…myself, So if I’m happy then I’m happy.

I am however on the lookout for suggestions and such – especially in regards to errors for correcting. For example, I only recently noticed that in chapter 2 when the arc troopers are shot down in the city their gunship is painted red however in other shots it has a blue paintjob.
 

The things I’ll focus on most are:
The intoduction – I’m not planning to follow the star wars film template exactly but it will follow closely. I’m working on an opening crawl and pan down to the rebublic cruisers approaching muunilist – this will involve rebuilding this shot that was butchered for the dvd release.

Pretty much the whole 1st chapter will be cut up and slotted into more relevant moments later on – The scene in palpy’s office a flasback [in sepia no less], Anakin reflecting after Asajj falls to her death.

Ventress – That’s right, I said falls to her death! I really hated how she just kept showing up in EU canon [oxymoron?] I plan to craft a few new shots from existing footage in order to give her a definite end rather than a vague one. [Don’t get me started on Bobba Fett post sarlaac pit]

Lightsabers – for the most part they look great but there are quite a few shots where the blades look, well, fat and / or the glow just looks odd. – I know it generally fits with the animation style but I intend to rework them where I see fit.

Color correcting – there are a few very minor things but there are a hanful of things I’ve noticed like anakin putting a black glove on his new hand – only in the very next shot he is gloveless again.

Tweaking the finale – I’m tweaking the end shot slightly by adding in 2 jedi starfighters flying into the fray [1 yellow, 1 red J] so that it really does end right at the point where ROTS begins. I’ll also redo the credits to cover both volumes and anything additional.

Music – I quite like the clone wars music, however I’m planning to overly more cues from the films [specifically AOTC and ROTS] I’ve done a few tests so far which sound pretty good.
 

A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away….

STAR WARS
CLONE WARS

In the aftermath of the Geonosis conflict the duty fell to the Knights of the Jedi Order to lead and command the newly formed army of the Republic.

The Confederacy of independent Systems have secretly built huge droid factories and massive warships on Muunilist, Homeworld of the intergalactic banking clan.

As the heat of war grows, Two young Jedi knights have been dispatched to quell this seperatist tthreat and restore peace to the galaxy….

Anyone got anything better than this? It’s just a quick idea and i think it could be more polished.

More details and images to follow…

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The Clone Wars cartoons weren't too bad, but if you are going to edit it, my first suggestion would be to eliminate the chapter where Mace destroys an entire droid army by himself. That was just too over the top, IMHO. Giving Ventress a definite death is also a good idea. Good luck with this!
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Originally posted by: Johnny Ringo
... So if I’m happy then I’m happy…


Man, you could write a self-help book!


This looks like it could be a lot of fun. The music on the series was good, it was just too limited. The same cues over and over again. Nice to see you are adding more music.
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and if you added some music from the Requiem for a Dream sndtrack that would be kinda cool too. Or were you just using it for a snappy thread title?
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If you want to stay canon about Ventress, she doesn't die during that fall. She actually dies in the comics thereafter. I can't remember exactly when it was in the Republic line but she is still alive after the fall, albeit in a bacta tank.
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First off I do love the series but I do feel they butchered it a bit for the DVD release - I'm not crazy about 'preservation' but I was a little annoyed to see some favourite scenes altered.

I'm a little ambivalent about the mace fight, I agree it is a little over the top but there are some bits that i love, I might look at trimming out a few bits. It's not definitely in at this point, really it depends on what serves the story.

Re: the music - yeah the series could have used a lot more. i do love what there is tho.
Re: requiem, I was actually making a Pink Floyd reference. But then a little Clint Mansell Music can spice up anything i guess

I was thinking about Ventress last night and was considering whether to make her death definite, I want to but i was thinking of maybe showing her arm on the ground [not severed] and a finger twitches or something. I'll see what's possible before i work it all out tho. If it doesn't tie in well with other eu sources, I'm alright with that.

One thing that might upset people is my plan to give windu a blue saber glow rather than purple, I love the colour but I never really liked the idea of it. How do people feel about that. I'm know i'm not the only one who wants it blue...

I'm not home much at the moment until Tuesday but hopefully I'll have some stuff to show by then, I've been working on a lot of stuff in photoshop but i dn't really have any clips done yet.

thanx for the comments so far, and remember if you find any errors or whatnot in the show -please let me know. I wondered how they let some things slip through at firtst but then it took me quite a while to notice some mistakes so...



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Since this shot no longer really exists I decided to rebuild it from scrath - Since I'm planning for it to be the opening shot after the 'pan down' from the opening crawl...

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/6407/ships0sq9.jpg

I salvaged a good shot of all the ships

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/294/ships3xk4.jpg

Then i cleared away the starfield and began saving each ship to an an individual layer - So that they can be moved independantly of each other

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4068/ships2aa6.jpg

And here is what we have so far, I've worked out the order in which i want them to appear, Now all that is left is creating the movements, which should be quite simple in something like Premiere. And then of course making sure that none of the sips cross paths during the sequence.

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/7997/ships1mf8.jpg
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A few more random shots while i'm still about...

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8615/01oh7.jpghttp://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6327/02pa3.jpg
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8327/03ft7.jpghttp://img238.imageshack.us/img238/349/04si8.jpg
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/7529/05nl2.jpghttp://img300.imageshack.us/img300/3382/06tz7.jpg

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/8123/asajjtestww8.jpg

I'll try get some stuff posted soon.
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Johnny Ringo, I am so happy you are doing this, because I love this mini series. The work I have seen from the few screen shots and your ideas and plans have got me so excited. Can't wait to see it!


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Great, and I'm looking forward to it. The shorts just never caught my interest as they aired - they just start and end to damn abruptly. One teeny-tiny, utterly nit-picketey suggestion about your crawl though; try "In the aftermath of Geonosis, the duty falls...". The grammar of all of the film crawls are immediate and active, no past-tense, which fits in with the cinematic idea the films follow of in-media res beginings. Keep us abreast of your progress!
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well, you're sort of correct. [there's plenty of past tense] I do see what you're saying tho and no harm no foul - Please note that nothing in the crawl is final. I'm not entirely happy with the wording yet, And I will go over the spelling and grammar of it all for the final templates. Everyone is welcome to comment sand suggest - that is why i set up the thread, The absolute bottom line worst i can do is disregard something...

And now...Some updates - btw, Now that I'm home again I should be able to get some stuff together pretty soon, Depending on how busy things are @ work.

First up is an idea I’ve been calling ‘angry eye’ Just like anaikin experiences after slaughtering a gaggle of seperatist leaders. Just another way to show off the angry young Jedi he is. I’m thinking it might help Ani’s descent feel a tad more gradual…

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/7379/34863810vq7.jpg
http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/3254/26412404xh7.jpghttp://img116.imageshack.us/img116/5761/65608464sp8.jpg

These are not specifically shots that would feature said effect…merely shots that worked well for testing purposes.

Here are a few more shots I’ve either corrected errors or tinkered with for my own amusement.

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1254/71921711tp8.jpghttp://img378.imageshack.us/img378/6752/43828482hc7.jpg
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I'm toying with the idea of a cammo style look for some troopers. I don't know how well it would work tho given that these guys were'nt originally stationed in a forest / jungle environment. still tweaking and testing...
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2895/14hb7.jpg

And here are a few shots of the opening ‘Test’ crawl I did. I’m not 100% happy with the crawl text so once I manage to work out something I like I’ll get that done.

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/865/11qi7.jpg

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/5042/46457413et5.jpghttp://img266.imageshack.us/img266/9409/70476294yn9.jpg
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9677/45851118ov3.jpghttp://img528.imageshack.us/img528/2839/10102825gh1.jpg


As you can see I'm toying with the idea of dvd intro style with characters shown within the logo but I'll probably stick with the token yellow outline / black center.

Now my first choice as far as the opening crawl goes is to use some version of the main title music from the films, But I’m also toying with the idea of either just using sound effects ala the original broadcasts openings or using an alternate tune.

The latter 2 both present problems – How can I deliver 1 minute plus of sound without it being distracting or annoying? And what music best reflects the feel of the show?

I’d lean toward the main title music however I’m really not sure what to follow it up with, I need something that is calm yet conveys what is going on. That being the coming attack on Muunilist by the Republic.

Suggestions??

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/2720/10fv0.jpg


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Hey, this looks promising. The cammo style look for the clone troopers and the DVD style intro is a must if you can work it.
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I like it all except the "angry eye". It is a good concept, but his entire eye shouldn't be glowing like a light bulb. Only the colored part turns red in the movies. This is just constructive critiscism, I will still love this project even if you do keep the "angry eye".


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Camo makes no sense if they weren't originally stationed there, also I agree with removing the windu scene, I don't know entirely what your intentions are but I'd edit it to remove the subplots that aren't relevant to anakin or the movies. What I would most like to see is the removal of one thing in particular which directly conflicts with the movies, his retarded tatoo. Great idea except that it wasn't in ep3 and nobody is gonna put it in there so it oughta be taken outta here.
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Whose tattoo? Anakin? - I can always remove that for the last few shots just leaving the scar I guess.

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http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4082/ac1mq8.jpg
nothing in this shot is final. Just a test.
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yes when the slugs crawl over his body and scar they leave the blue tattooed there that stays in the cartoon but not the movie.
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I always thought the tatoo wore off eventually.


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Originally posted by: Marvolo
I always thought the tatoo wore off eventually.


me too
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Hmm, Likewise but I gotta with with DarthBalls1138 on this one. He still has it in the last shots he's in. This is very shortly before we'll se him in ROTS. At lest in my edit, So the tattoo goes once he's off the planet I guess.
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I see what you mean and agree. Just remove the tatoos once he is off the planet. That would be easier than removing the tatoos from the entire movie.


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Yeah agreed, I actually liked the tattoos for the quest he goes on. We can safely assume that he's cleaned up before working on th enew hand with r2 and no continuity hassles.

i'm currently going through and looking at trying to give a bit of continuity to the look of GG, mainly thru sticking with a set of colours. He look sdifferent every time you see him. I was listening to a commentary where they confessed that George kept telling them conflicting ideas about GG as they went along - No suprises there.
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This looks really amazing, one thing though did I read it right that you plan to add clint mansell or pink floyd into the movie?

"The Empire can't stop us now..now its our turn" -Luke-

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No. Just friendly banter... I'm not saying I wont [I love them both] - It's just not what we were saying is all.

I am however on the lookout for any music that would suit the feel of the project. Any [serious ] suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

I labeled the thread as a parody of Pink Floyd's 'the final cut' - which has the tag line, "Requiem for a post war dream".
Strangely enough the tracklist has a somewhat starwars-y feel with titles like - 2 suns in the sunset

I've been pretty busy so hopefully I'll have time on the weekend to get really stuck into this. I'll keep you all posted as I go. Some interesting things have already been brought to my attention. It's always good to have fresh eyes on things.

I am however on the lookout for any music that woud suit the feel of the project.