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The Puggo Edition - webpage and screenshots (Super 8 transfers - Released) — Page 4
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I just watched the Empire reels and something stuck out at me. I had another look and I believe I have found something quite significant. Check out these screen caps:
2006 GOUT:
Same image from the 1985 CAV Laser:
And the same image from the Super 8 reel:
Another frame from the GOUT as the Emperor fades in:
Same frame from the '85 Laser:
And the Super 8 reel:
The above shot on the Super 8 reel corresponds with reports regarding the 70mm cut of TESB. In the 70mm version, the Emperor's hologram doesn't fade in, just like the Super 8 reel.
Another example:
GOUT DVD:
Same frame from the '85 Laser:
And the same frame from the Super 8:
Again, this corresponds to the 70mm cut.
I believe this is the first confirmed visual evidence of alternate footage existing within one of the films!
Also, this section of Michael Matessino's 70mm list that appeared in Film Score Monthly also appears in the Super 8 reel:
Add all of this to the numerous (and already known) differences in the Super 8 audio and this becomes even more intriguing.
Fascinating!
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Interesting that they got the super8 reels from the 70mm set. Hopefully someday the 70mm cut will come available.
Another somewhat interesting thing is that in ESB, they cut the "Luke, I am your Father" line. Does anyone know if these films come out before or at the same time as the theatrical releases? Or did they just not want to spoil it for those who might of not seen the theatrical film yet?
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Also, my apologies on the lax effort on completing the cover, I'm a little overextended on the work front, but hope to have it completed this weekend.
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I am downunder, but I'll still mail anywhere in the world.
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I have 5 blanks left so I will send a puggo to the first 5 in Oz that want one, send me an e-mail and your address.
Then make sure *you* remember to pay it forward when you receive it.
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Download (complete with label) here.
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cheers buddy
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I just downloaded these - they're great - nice job puggo - does anybody know where I can find a list of all the audio/picture differences btw these and the 35mm vers?
Thanks, and I'd like such a list too. I can accumulate them on the website as they materialize. Now I need to go back and find that thread that had an initial - presumably partial - list....
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Star Wars:
Introductory Crawl is Spoken.
ESB:
Video:
The Emporer does not fade in in his communique with Vader.
Millenium Falcon Satellite dish not visible with Luke on weather vane.
Audio
- Han saying 'watch this' as he tries to jump to hyperspace in the asteriod field. Although the dialogue hasn't changed different emphasis are put on certain words."
- Luke - "I don't pick up any life readings" - Different take
- Han - "I'm going back" - Different take
- More rebels calls of 'retreat' when Walkers attack
- Leia "They're getting closer [star destroyers] - Different take - she stutters it twice
- Cloud Car pilots - Different line - will confirm with actual line asap.
- Leia "I know where Luke is" is replaced by "we must go back" or something similar
- C3P0 - new line just before "I thought that hairy beast would be the end of me" - It's something like "I'm glad we are back together"
- The frigate at the end looks decidedly different - i will have to check this.
Cloud City Security - "Any aggressive move will not be tollerated!"
Cloud Cit Security - "Permission granted to land on platform 3-2-7. Any deviattion will" - Han cuts of comms.
Leia - "Lando, hurry up, we've got company!" (as Lando is rescuing Luke from the weathervane)
C3P0- "Get away from there, you don't know how to fix the hyperdrive!
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You can go about your business. Move along, move along.
The Story of Star Wars
The Adventures Of Luke Skywalker
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It’s Not the Years, It’s the Mileage.
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Does anyone know if these films come out before or at the same time as the theatrical releases? Or did they just not want to spoil it for those who might of not seen the theatrical film yet?
The ESB reels were apparently released on June 1, 1980, which is a mere 11 days after opening day. TESB opened exclusively in 70mm, which may explain why that cut would have been used on the Super 8 reels.
Audio
- Han saying 'watch this' as he tries to jump to hyperspace in the asteriod field. Although the dialogue hasn't changed different emphasis are put on certain words."
- Luke - "I don't pick up any life readings" - Different take
- Han - "I'm going back" - Different take
- More rebels calls of 'retreat' when Walkers attack
- Leia "They're getting closer [star destroyers] - Different take - she stutters it twice
- Cloud Car pilots - Different line - will confirm with actual line asap.
- Leia "I know where Luke is" is replaced by "we must go back" or something similar
- C3P0 - new line just before "I thought that hairy beast would be the end of me" - It's something like "I'm glad we are back together"
- The frigate at the end looks decidedly different - i will have to check this.
Cloud City Security - "Any aggressive move will not be tollerated!"
Cloud Cit Security - "Permission granted to land on platform 3-2-7. Any deviattion will" - Han cuts of comms.
Leia - "Lando, hurry up, we've got company!" (as Lando is rescuing Luke from the weathervane)
C3P0- "Get away from there, you don't know how to fix the hyperdrive!
I think there are a lot more than that. I'm going to go break out the fine-toothed comb and go over it.
Originally posted by: Sluggo
This disc seems like it could be very beneficial to a reconstruction of the 70mm prints of ESB. I'm gonna start moving some of the camparison pics and such to the appropriate thread.
Click here
So Sluggo, do you think that this is indeed the 70mm cut on these Super 8 reels? I just don't want to jump the gun, but it certainly looks that way. This is very exciting.
I'll post anything else I find in that other thread.
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Jambe did a little research in this field. Combined with what we know and what The Starkiller has found I guess we have a list that looks something like this:
Star Wars:
Introductory Crawl is Spoken.
ESB:
Video:
The Emporer does not fade in in his communique with Vader.
Millenium Falcon Satellite dish not visible with Luke on weather vane.
Audio
- Han saying 'watch this' as he tries to jump to hyperspace in the asteriod field. Although the dialogue hasn't changed different emphasis are put on certain words."
- Luke - "I don't pick up any life readings" - Different take
- Han - "I'm going back" - Different take
- More rebels calls of 'retreat' when Walkers attack
- Leia "They're getting closer [star destroyers] - Different take - she stutters it twice
- Cloud Car pilots - Different line - will confirm with actual line asap.
- Leia "I know where Luke is" is replaced by "we must go back" or something similar
- C3P0 - new line just before "I thought that hairy beast would be the end of me" - It's something like "I'm glad we are back together"
- The frigate at the end looks decidedly different - i will have to check this.
Cloud City Security - "Any aggressive move will not be tollerated!"
Cloud Cit Security - "Permission granted to land on platform 3-2-7. Any deviattion will" - Han cuts of comms.
Leia - "Lando, hurry up, we've got company!" (as Lando is rescuing Luke from the weathervane)
C3P0- "Get away from there, you don't know how to fix the hyperdrive!
Interesting discoveries. I wonder then if any of these alternate lines appeared in the 70mm mixes? Its obviously based from an earlier pre-35mm mix of the film, as a drastic re-mix such as this would not be performed for a super-8 retail version. I wonder if some of this are from an even earlier work-in-progress mix that pre-dates the 70mm one...
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I saw the preview-clips on your site and the quality of the capture seems really good.
would have been cool if the rounded corners of the frames had been preserved
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The Sith Revealed - A Scrapbook
Episode III The Video Game - The Movie
24: The Missing Day
Star Wars - The Interactive Board Game DVD
Battlefront - Journal of the 501st
The Clones Revealed
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This is a very cool project! I just jumped on the torrent.
I saw the preview-clips on your site and the quality of the capture seems really good.
would have been cool if the rounded corners of the frames had been preserved
Cheers!
Where's this torrent hosted?