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Am I missing something? Ah, it's only a movie.
Am I missing something? Ah, it's only a movie.
"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape
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The problem with the Superman II ending is this: its not the real intended ending. Lets say that it is ending v0.5. The original plan for the two films were as follows: Superman 1 would not have any of Lois being killed by the earthquake, the climax would be Superman racing to save the missile. He throws it into space, where it detonates and releases the Phantom Zone prisoners, who yell "freedom!" before advancing on earth--cut to title: "To be continued next year in Superman II!" Bum Bum BUUUUUUM! Basically it was the prologue of the Donner Cut of Superman II. Then Superman II would end as the Donner Cut did, with Superman reversing time. But after they abandoned Superman II 3/4 through shooting and focused only on Superman 1, they realised that the reversing-time ending would better suit Superman 1. Thus, the whole structure of the ending of part 1 and the beginning and end of part 2 was totally re-written. But then Donner quit/was fired before they could come back to complete Superman II. So the ending was never completed. What we have on Superman II The Richard Donner Cut is the original ending, but technically Superman 1 would have to be re-edited to be in its original configuration. I don't know how Donner would have solved the memory thing--the "magic kiss" of Lester's is not so bad, but probably Donner would just have Lois with the knowledge that Clark is Superman. But anyway, Lester's ending is not the true ending either, and in wanting to use as much Donner material as possible, Donner's original ending was kept intact, even if it raises some plot questions and would have been thrown away anyway.
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Superman turning time back several days, zipping Kryptonians off earth and back into the Phantom Zone that's somewhere near Saturn, giving Lois her cherry back, and then beating up a bully who has no memory of him is just stupid editing though. Thau, Donner, and Mank, bless 'em all, should be flogged for that one.
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Anyways, about going back in time, that never made sense to me in the least, but, I don't think these were meant to be serious movies. Maybe they were, but something gives me the feeling that they weren't.
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Originally posted by: Tiptup
The Donner cut should involve Clark, Louis, and Jimmy getting lost in a mountain blizzard and subsequently eating each other's flesh to survive.
The Donner cut should involve Clark, Louis, and Jimmy getting lost in a mountain blizzard and subsequently eating each other's flesh to survive.
But why would Jimmy be hanging out with two 18th-19th century explorers to begin with?
There is no lingerie in space…
C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
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Red heads ROCK. Blondes do not rock. Nuff said.
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That was perhaps one of the biggest "What the heck" moments in all of movie history. Family guy made a funny joke about this sometime ago.
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Originally posted by: C3PX
No! Not the fortress battle! Does this mean they cut out the giant celephane "S".
That was perhaps one of the biggest "What the heck" moments in all of movie history. Family guy made a funny joke about this sometime ago.
No! Not the fortress battle! Does this mean they cut out the giant celephane "S".
That was perhaps one of the biggest "What the heck" moments in all of movie history. Family guy made a funny joke about this sometime ago.
Never paid much attention to the giant celephane "S". The thing I think of most when it comes to the 2nd Superman film is the shot where Superman throws General Zod into the giant Coke sign; that's probably my favorite scene from the movie.
Red heads ROCK. Blondes do not rock. Nuff said.
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Originally posted by: C3PX
No! Not the fortress battle! Does this mean they cut out the giant celephane "S".
That was perhaps one of the biggest "What the heck" moments in all of movie history. Family guy made a funny joke about this sometime ago.
No! Not the fortress battle! Does this mean they cut out the giant celephane "S".
That was perhaps one of the biggest "What the heck" moments in all of movie history. Family guy made a funny joke about this sometime ago.
Yeah, its just a brief example of Lester's complete misunderstanding of the Superman mythos, contrasted by Donner where he knew it down to a tee. It is in minor form in Superman II because it was balanced out by Donner's wonderful footage but in Superman III when Lester had total control you can really see the elements that he was trying to bring to the series. The giant celophane S was one of his lamest inventions, so much that family guy made an entire re-constuction of the climax of Superman II where everyone stops to contemplate the logic of throwing a giant celophane S from his chest.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI1UVDOuMqE
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Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
Never paid much attention to the giant celephane "S". The thing I think of most when it comes to the 2nd Superman film is the shot where Superman throws General Zod into the giant Coke sign; that's probably my favorite scene from the movie.
Originally posted by: C3PX
No! Not the fortress battle! Does this mean they cut out the giant celephane "S".
That was perhaps one of the biggest "What the heck" moments in all of movie history. Family guy made a funny joke about this sometime ago.
No! Not the fortress battle! Does this mean they cut out the giant celephane "S".
That was perhaps one of the biggest "What the heck" moments in all of movie history. Family guy made a funny joke about this sometime ago.
Never paid much attention to the giant celephane "S". The thing I think of most when it comes to the 2nd Superman film is the shot where Superman throws General Zod into the giant Coke sign; that's probably my favorite scene from the movie.
Oh, I had forgotten how much I love that movie. The battle in the street is great. I love the part where the three convicts are blowing and everybody is flying away. It is things like this movie that make comic book fans seem like retards. I absolutely love it though.
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I read an article on the alternate version of Superman II Richard Donner’s cut (very good!)
https://www.capedwonder.com/superman-2-alternate-donner-cut/
And I cannot buy this version on amazon.com and vudu because I am French. Is i possible to send me a link by pm ?, I am very curious to see it! Thanks you !