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Doomsday Clock changed - 5 minutes to midnight

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The Doomsday clock has been changed and moved two minutes foward towards midnight. So we're back to the "Threads"/"Day After" early 80s nuclear era. India and Pakistan, the United States, whose GW Bush backed out of the Missle Treaty and thrown away what Kennedy and Reagan worked, Iran and North Korea performing nuclear tests and developments under the UN incompetent and abrasive sight...

We'll meet again
Don't know where
Don't know when
But I know we'll meet again some sunny day
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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Mein Führer, I can walk!

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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Gentleman you can't fight in here, this is the War Room!
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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Yes, I heard about this on a talk show, its very intresting, but I hardly doubt a big contributer was Bush. We were lucky to back out of that false pact------In the 60's and 80's we were in need of it, but not now, that pact is old-It's funny how Iran and N. Korea are involved too--------I wonder whats going to happen in the next few years with them--
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The scientists who mind the Doomsday Clock moved it two minutes closer to midnight on Wednesday -- symbolizing the annihilation of civilization



Hahaha. Those fucking jackasses.

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Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
Yes, I heard about this on a talk show, its very intresting, but I hardly doubt a big contributer was Bush. We were lucky to back out of that false pact------In the 60's and 80's we were in need of it, but not now, that pact is old-It's funny how Iran and N. Korea are involved too--------I wonder whats going to happen in the next few years with them--


What is the advantage of not being under this treaty now, as opposed to it being necessary back in the Cold War?
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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The Soviets were at least willing to play ball with us. They knew that if they let up on their threats, we'd let up on ours. They knew that if they attacked us, we'd take them down as well. The Soviets were different because they thought it best to practice self-preservation. But those psychos running Iran and North Korea don't seem to realize (or care) that attacking the States or Israel would be the suicide of them and their entire countries. That's what makes them more dangerous.
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Originally posted by: Nanner Split
Doomsday Clock? What kind of bullshit is that?!


The finest in all the lands! You can search the world through and never find better quality bullshits.


Johnboy said: "The Soviets were at least willing to play ball with us. They knew that if they let up on their threats, we'd let up on ours. They knew that if they attacked us, we'd take them down as well. The Soviets were different because they thought it best to practice self-preservation. But those psychos running Iran and North Korea don't seem to realize (or care) that attacking the States or Israel would be the suicide of them and their entire countries. That's what makes them more dangerous."

Nail... hammer... BAM! Right on the head!

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
What the snorkel is the "Doomsday Clock"?


Let the dumb be smart, let the foolish be wise, let the ill informed be... better informed, let the students who use it for their research papers get Fs, wikipedia is here!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_Clock

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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Already found that. Sounds like a bunch of scare-mongering to me.

Of course a nuclear attack is possible, but unless we just DO NOTHING, then there's no reason to think we're closer now than we were during the cold war.

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Let the dumb be smart, let the foolish be wise, let the ill informed be... better informed, let the students who use it for their research papers get Fs, wikipedia is here!

I hear ya. I got lucky this semester: my biology teacher LOVES Wikipedia and urges people to read something new from it every day. I'm strongly thinking about knocking her up so we can get married after her prison term. What say you?
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Exactly, it is a bunch of scare-mongers.

ricarleite said: "So we're back to the "Threads"/"Day After" early 80s nuclear era. India and Pakistan, the United States, whose GW Bush backed out of the Missle Treaty and thrown away what Kennedy and Reagan worked, Iran and North Korea performing nuclear tests and developments under the UN incompetent and abrasive sight..."

Kennedy and Reagan's work is not lost at all. We are in a different game now. America and much of the western world have a hard time understanding this, but it is all a matter of religion. They have a hard time understanding it because they like to think religion is outdated and ignorant, and it can be in some cases. The soviets were atheist, when you are an atheist you want to preserve you life as long as you can, because once that is spent, you belief system tells you there is nothing else. The Muslims believe in an afterlife, therefore their death means nothing. This is why they have no trouble blowing themselves up on demand. Because their doctrine teaches that they will reach the ultimate level in the afterlife if they sacrifice themselves in a holy war. Japan was this same way. It is why the kamikaze pilots had no problem slamming their selves into enemy ships. People in the western world can't seem to comprehend this, they seem to think that you can reason with Muslim terrorist and talk them out of it. No matter what rewards you can offer them on earth, they will never compare to the rewards they believe they will receive in the afterlife.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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Having nuclear weapons is NEVER a good idea, no matter the situation. The mere act of using it would jeopardize all life on the planet, and its sole porpouse during the Cold War was to the Mutual Assured Destruction theory.

Now, some people argue that the effects of such weapon would be concentrated at a close range and would not affect the rest of the world, let alone neighboring countries, and the only aftermatch would be civillians dying a horrible death. The same kind of people that go against every single thing science has proven about the obvious effects of such weapons are the same kind of people that deny global warming to be caused by polution and blame it to be a liberal commie invention to end freedom or something (might as well deny the Holocaust, as some of these people are the ones who happily sang with Borat to "throw the Jew down the well").

What is the porpouse of achieving a higher atomic arsenal other than the obvious lobby from companies who produce this sort of stuff? What is the target? If it is so obvious who the target is and that the effects of the bomb will not harm the planet, why not nuke them now? Are you REALLY expecting a M.A.D. assurance from "teh evil terrorists"? And who are they? B'aath? Osama Bin Laden? North Korea? OK if you actually escalate to the point of using a nuclear weapon against any of those targets (and the only one easily found on Google Maps is North Korea), if you reach THAT point, don't you think it'll be in a scenario in which NY City is vanished through a nuclear bomb? WHAT is the point? Please prove me that ripping off missle treaties and bringing NUCLEAR WEAPONS into the game is best for the world, and explain me a scenario in which this sort of weapon would be used. Please.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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North Korea is the only situation where using nuclear weapons is justifiable (at the moment). Kim Jong (mentally) Il might be crazy enough to use them on us. If (AND ONLY IF) he does, which would you honestly prefer: using a nuclear weapon on him, or sacrificing thousands upon thousands of troops mounting a ground invasion? I'm sorry, but when it comes down to a horrific "us or them" question like that, nationalism wins out for me. Or would you rather just let the UN slap him on the wrist? That's all they can do independently, after all: if the UN approved an invasion, we might as well do it ourselves, since the we make up the bulk of its military resources, anyway. My point through all this is: why deny us our greatest asset when there's someone crazy enough to set these things in motion? When the North Korean and Iranian governments start acting in a manner that could vaguely be described as rational, then I'm all for it. I don't want the world ending up in nuclear winter either, but think of it this way: they're more likely to use it than we are (especially if the Democrats gain control of both Congress and the Presidency in 2008), and if they use it, we can make sure they never use it again. Overall, the number of bombs used will be less. Let's pray, though, that none have to be used at all.
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You're totally missing the point! In which case such weapon would be used? There are only two possible scenarios:

1- GW Bush goes "General Ripper" on us and strike North Korea first - and whatever the hell he wants to bomb as well, the highest the number of megadeaths on the first night, the better.

2- The United States waits until North Korea attacks Japan - which is as close as they can get so far. So we'll have millions of Japanese and Korean civillians dead.

And on BOTH alternatives, you'll have a nuclear winter than will vanish humankind from the Earth - which is a good thing, if you think about it.

So PLEASE, again, anyone, give me a good reason for keeping nuclear weapons. Without using the words "just shut up" or "liberal commie bastard".
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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And on BOTH alternatives, you'll have a nuclear winter than will vanish humankind from the Earth - which is a good thing, if you think about it.

Whoa! So you're saying that TWO bombs will wipe out the human race? We've set off what could collectively be compared to that in the past (especially considering North Korea doesn't have the "Big Boomers" yet; oh God, I just quoted Jar Jar in a conversation about politics! The end IS near!). Nuclear weapons are damn dangerous, but they're not frickin' asteroids.
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It's not quite as simple as "they blow us up, we blow them up", we do have the technology to prevent this from happening. We have missiles that are specifically designed to blow up incoming nukes before they hit their targets (I know because my dad works on the guidance software for them).

http://i.imgur.com/7N84TM8.jpg

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We can really do something like that? I thought attempts to do that had failed.
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And that is why America=win.

But I'm not so sure I enjoy knowing that Nanner's dad works for the software....

All he knows about computers is "Please format drive c!"
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
You're totally missing the point! In which case such weapon would be used? There are only two possible scenarios:

1- GW Bush goes "General Ripper" on us and strike North Korea first - and whatever the hell he wants to bomb as well, the highest the number of megadeaths on the first night, the better.

2- The United States waits until North Korea attacks Japan - which is as close as they can get so far. So we'll have millions of Japanese and Korean civillians dead.

And on BOTH alternatives, you'll have a nuclear winter than will vanish humankind from the Earth - which is a good thing, if you think about it.

So PLEASE, again, anyone, give me a good reason for keeping nuclear weapons. Without using the words "just shut up" or "liberal commie bastard".


Ok then I'll take your proposition-

1.What the hell is up with you people that think "General Bush" is the fucking King of the nation?Do you have any sliver of an idea on how the American Government works? NEWS FLASH! HE'S NOT! HE CAN'T FUCKING GO "GENERAL RIPPER" on his own--like he would do that!? It has never been done and never will be done you crazy person-

2.What do you mean wait until they attack Japan? What do you mean thats as close as they can get? The TaiPong II missile can reach my home of sunny San Fransisco. Just because you saw one of them fail a test, does not mean they don't have the capability-

3. Hehe--Nuclear Winter that will vanish man kind from the earth? Your a real defeatist--you don't think that your people will be the ones that will get out of this one? Nuclear weapons are a powerful, powerful deterrent---the baddest of the bad are working on getting them----there is so many reason why we need to keep Nuclear weapons. Ric, this ain't the cold war! Get out of that 1976 frame of mind!
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1.What the hell is up with you people that think "General Bush" is the fucking King of the nation?Do you have any sliver of an idea on how the American Government works? NEWS FLASH! HE'S NOT! HE CAN'T FUCKING GO "GENERAL RIPPER" on his own--like he would do that!? It has never been done and never will be done you crazy person-



I'm glad you brought this up, as I keep forgetting to. Unlike so many people think, the President really doesn't have nearly as much power as people think he does. He's got just a little bit more power than the Queen of England; most of the U.S. governmental power comes from Congress.

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One more reason why Bushy McPhushy won't go "General Ripper" (that sounds familiar... what cartoon is it from?): if humanity goes extinct, there won't be any money!