Originally posted by: LeoneNut
ZakDrizzt - Did you find anything in the end?
No, nothing. Spent ages going through that Thief & Cobbler thread. (It's massive, biggest thread in this section) Found the posts of Faceman, but looks like he just did some tests for OCPmovie, then disappeared, just stopped posting. Nothing about what software he used.
That's the reason I didn't attempt this myself. I might have battled my way through the video, but the audio? No chance!
Originally posted by: LeoneNut
Three changes I have made are open for discussion:
1) The shot of Lili kissing Jack "Are you afraid to kiss me?" uses the AC version which is slightly longer and shot with the camera a little further away. I can see no difference between this and the DC version as Jack doesn't respond to Lili in exactly the same way.
The reason for the change is this shot follows on from Lili bending down and saying "I'm sorry" much better.
2) Blunder's line "Adios Amigos" has been removed and an extended scream inserted. It was starting to irritate me as much as it does for other people
3) There is an odd flip dissolve between Lili and the Unicorn being captured, and Jack, Gump & Screwball finding Brown Tom unconscious. Sean pointed this out to me, and I agree with him that it seems out of place. This has been replaced with a more normal fade out/fade in to denote passing time.
ZakDrizzt - Did you find anything in the end?
No, nothing. Spent ages going through that Thief & Cobbler thread. (It's massive, biggest thread in this section) Found the posts of Faceman, but looks like he just did some tests for OCPmovie, then disappeared, just stopped posting. Nothing about what software he used.
Originally posted by: LeoneNut
I tried various things to improve the Intro footage, one especially called RemoveGrain. But my results usually resulted losing too much detail. I don't think there is much more I can do with this to be honest.
It will look out of place with the pristine footage, but will be like a workprint version anyway.
Version 2 was always gonna be a workprint because of the state of the Faerie dance, so it's cool. Did you do those re-edits we discussed to get the titles back in?
Originally posted by: LeoneNut
Haven't touched this for a couple of days, but am close to finishing Version 1. I need to sort out problems with the music in a few places, the extra shot of Lili and the gown merging, the shot of Jack whistling to the bird, and some more places I forget.
It's very hard to extend a scene by one or two shots, then somehow make the music flow without moving sound effects or dialogue out of place. Editing the video has been so much easier.
I tried various things to improve the Intro footage, one especially called RemoveGrain. But my results usually resulted losing too much detail. I don't think there is much more I can do with this to be honest.
It will look out of place with the pristine footage, but will be like a workprint version anyway.
Version 2 was always gonna be a workprint because of the state of the Faerie dance, so it's cool. Did you do those re-edits we discussed to get the titles back in?
Originally posted by: LeoneNut
Haven't touched this for a couple of days, but am close to finishing Version 1. I need to sort out problems with the music in a few places, the extra shot of Lili and the gown merging, the shot of Jack whistling to the bird, and some more places I forget.
It's very hard to extend a scene by one or two shots, then somehow make the music flow without moving sound effects or dialogue out of place. Editing the video has been so much easier.
That's the reason I didn't attempt this myself. I might have battled my way through the video, but the audio? No chance!
Originally posted by: LeoneNut
Three changes I have made are open for discussion:
1) The shot of Lili kissing Jack "Are you afraid to kiss me?" uses the AC version which is slightly longer and shot with the camera a little further away. I can see no difference between this and the DC version as Jack doesn't respond to Lili in exactly the same way.
The reason for the change is this shot follows on from Lili bending down and saying "I'm sorry" much better.
2) Blunder's line "Adios Amigos" has been removed and an extended scream inserted. It was starting to irritate me as much as it does for other people
3) There is an odd flip dissolve between Lili and the Unicorn being captured, and Jack, Gump & Screwball finding Brown Tom unconscious. Sean pointed this out to me, and I agree with him that it seems out of place. This has been replaced with a more normal fade out/fade in to denote passing time.
1) Even in the AC, there seems to be a distracting jump cut in that scene. Use whatever makes the scene flow better. I know you're reluctant to cut out anything from the DC, but in this case it's just a different camera angle, the content is still there.
[Edit] I went and had a look at this scene. What a mess those guys did with the AC. You can tell they had lost control and were just snipping haphazardly as they went. The extra footage cuts off so abruptly when Lilly says 'Jack, I'm sorry' and this causes her lips to be out of sync when she says 'Are you afraid to kiss me?'. The DC works much better, but for the missing footage. I'm not sure what to do here. I think I would add the extra footage but keep the DC 'Are you afraid to kiss me". It's a difficult one; the only other option is not using the extra footage, but I kinda like her 'Jack, I'm sorry'.
2) Yes!!! Hate that line, good call.
3) Good idea, that weird Star Wars dissolve stuck out like a sore thumb.