Originally posted by: Cable-X1
Sorry to have skipped over your post, ferris209 with my own silly post, but what you said was indeed insightful. I doubt people like Gomer have the benefit of your experience. I'd listen to you before I'd listen to stupidity like his.
I have to ask something though.....is it really the legal system that needs an overhaul like so many say or should something really be done about all the lawyers who I think certainly have fucked things up more than anyone else has?
I've always thought it was the lawyers and you say that they would be all over you if so much as a misspelled word was on your report. To me, that's just ridiculous. To release someone who is clearly guilty over something so mundane is retarded beyond belief.
We appreciate what you bring to the table. And I agree that people like Gomer are dangerous. They have their heads up their ass and need to get down in the shit and see how things really are. Problems don't get solved by being a pussy and using kid gloves. You have to nip the problem in the ass and that takes tough people sometimes. People like Gomer aren't tough, they're soft and shit just gets worse when you're soft.
Come on Gomer....get your ass in here and try to take on ferris209's point of view!!!
Tell us about some of this stupidity that he said....I'm oddly curious.
Sorry to have skipped over your post, ferris209 with my own silly post, but what you said was indeed insightful. I doubt people like Gomer have the benefit of your experience. I'd listen to you before I'd listen to stupidity like his.
I have to ask something though.....is it really the legal system that needs an overhaul like so many say or should something really be done about all the lawyers who I think certainly have fucked things up more than anyone else has?
I've always thought it was the lawyers and you say that they would be all over you if so much as a misspelled word was on your report. To me, that's just ridiculous. To release someone who is clearly guilty over something so mundane is retarded beyond belief.
We appreciate what you bring to the table. And I agree that people like Gomer are dangerous. They have their heads up their ass and need to get down in the shit and see how things really are. Problems don't get solved by being a pussy and using kid gloves. You have to nip the problem in the ass and that takes tough people sometimes. People like Gomer aren't tough, they're soft and shit just gets worse when you're soft.
Come on Gomer....get your ass in here and try to take on ferris209's point of view!!!
As this relates to Go-Mer, of course he will always be Go-Mer. I have known him from the TFN days since 1999 or so, and he hasn't changed one iota in those 8 years, and we won't ever. We can only hope that he merely refrains from posting stupidity, which indeed he has to a certain degree if you could see him on TFN circa 2001.
Tell us about some of this stupidity that he said....I'm oddly curious.
Well, the problem admittedly is the lawyers who have exploited and played the system against itself time and time again. As to about my misspelled word comment, I don't think anyone would be released on any serious offense for that, but the defense attorneys will use that to try and make an officer look incompetent. i.e.
Attorney: So Officer Baker, I noticed that you misspelled "marijuana" in your report.
Officer: Yes sir, that must have been a clerical error on my part.
Attorney: So did you not review your report before you turned it in?
Officer: Yes sir, but I may have missed that.
Attorney: Could it be Officer Baker that if you can miss that you are capable of missing other things as well.
Officer: Well, yes sir.
Attorney: So you admit to having not only spelled this incorrectly, but then you failed to notice your mistake upon reviewing it.
Officer: Yes sir.
Attorney: Pass the witness your Honor.
The attorney will continuously do this line of questioning always trying to make the officer look stupid to the judge and jury. I could cite SO MANY instances where this almost or entirely bogged cases down. Not only that there are some things in our systems that I think could be changed for example the unanimous jury verdicts in criminal trials. This is plaguing our justice system and so many people are walking free because of that one radical jerk on a jury who does not want to say "guilty". Federal law requires that federally prosecuted cases have a unanimous verdict, meaning all of the six or twelve jurors must vote guilty. If even one votes not guilty, then it can lead to a hung jury. Now states are not required to have this unanimous verdict clause, but almost all of them do, including my home state of Texas. This leads to problems for example, I was the initial officer on the scene of a Child Molestation case where I took the initial report, long story short after obtaining confirmation from the Doctor that the 8 year had been sexually assaulted and she could detail the several sexual interactions with her Uncle, the prosecution was set forth. Months later a jury was selected and, somehow, one guy got on there who for some unknown reason would not vote guilty despite. This forced the trial to end up hung and the bastard walked out unscathed. Sure the trial was a mistrial he was prosecuted again almost a year later, but he walked the streets for another year possibly molesting other kids before we were able to send his ass down. Now after two years in jail, he just got out and registered in at the PD as a sex offender. Where is the justice for the now eleven year old girl who is scarred for life because of this low life's sexual desire for little girls. It is sickening and each day I spend on the front lines, the harder it gets. Back to my point, it took almost two years, countless man hours for the officers, prosecutors, court appointed attorneys, and tax dollars spent for that son of a bitch to get put in jail for a measly two years and then released back out to prey on our kids. I wish the justice system would invoke a non unanimous jury which requires an 80% vote, meaning if five of the six jurors or ten of the twelve vote guilty, the bastard is guilty. Fact is, it needs to fixed all the way around, but what is the fix and how can it be put in place. It may never happen because it is a slippery slope. Get too harsh and we become a police state, however, you get too liberal and we get ravaged in crime and all become victims, there is no easy solution.