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I think invading another country has to be done for solid, valid reasons, not unfounded paranoia based on hearsay.

When the President told me why we had to invade Iraq, I had his back up until it turned out that that reason turned out to be fictitious.

I argued in his defense to my other friends. I told them that sometimes, extreme measures are needed.

Now it turns out that was bogus.

Now to the rest of the world, it looks like there is the chance that we will just come up with a reason if we don't have one.

Whether they actually manufactured the false data, or were merely acting in good faith on something they believed to be true, that's bad to me.

What is it with us white people? We come to America, claim the natives are "savages" and then kill a lot of them off and take their land.

To dehumanize other groups of people like that is just a tad dismissive to me.

As far as their propensity to kill other people in vicious ways, they certainly aren't cornering the market in that area.



Try looking at this from the other side. You say that we can't fight them fair because they won't fight fair. Well what if that's the reason they aren't fighting fair either? Is this justification only good for us?
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You bastard. You cannot stop pointing out the few faults of our own society and don't even point out the dozens of flaw of the enemy. Fucker.

OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So YOUR one of THOSE DEGENERATE WHITE PEOPLE that are ashamed of what you "ancestors" did 300 years ago!!! Now I see where your coming from, you just proved yourself to be more of a fucking physcopath with out even answering the question I asked!

What do you mean "us" white people-Just because I'm conservative you think I'm white? Nope, I'm actually Mexican, Filipinos, Spanish and a tiny bit German (hence my last name Reich). So no, I don't know what is it with "you white people".

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People like you have allowed this to happen-
http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/index.html
Scroll to the bottom- I beleive you'll find the videos to your liking.

http://www.conservativethinking.com/files/kim-sun-il/kim-sun-il-beheading-09.jpg
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I am appalled by the way our ancestors took this country from it's native inhabitants and that makes -me- a pshychopath?

The only reason I haven't debated your points about what their faults are, is because I don't contest them. You are right about a lot of that.

I'm just worried about us stooping to their level.
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Are we beheading people, are we doing suicide bombings? What the fuck are you so concerned about stooping to their level. We never will, becuase we are a civilized society that lives in the 21st century. We are fighting people from hundreds of years ago. Idiot.
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Thank you for stating the obvious. I guess your no better than any of my peers.
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No but keep guessing.

Look, I'm obviously upsetting people, and I will be the first to admit I'm just not very good at arguing politics in the first place.

I'll just admit that I really don't have all the answers, and I appreciate you guys explaining your point of view.
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
You are 14.


Whoa! That was perhaps the harshest come back imaginable. Especially toward somebody who proclaims their youth with every post. Humerously Gomer, you use it as an insult and you claim to be much older than that, yet your arguaments and your posts, while not over puncuated and full of caps, have yet to make you seem older than that. You should at least directly address others comments. Instead you just say there must have been a morally higher action to take than the one taken. I must say, I am very happy you have nothing to do with ruling the country. WESHALLPRESERVE is getting a little extreme posting real pictures of real disembodied heads, but I understand the point he is trying to make. You do understand that some of these people whose bodies are now short one head were not all militants? There have been reporters and missionaries and plenty of others. And that is only to mention the American ones, they do this to their own plenty. Does that not make you feel uneasy? You know if they could get their hands on you, they would love to saw your head off, film it and broadcast it to the world. They don't give a damn how soft hearted your are towards them. I can't say war is any beautiful or glorious thing, it is awful. It is more awful than you know. But sometimes there are no alternatives. These people will stop at nothing to achieve their means. NO, not al Muslims are bad, but I laugh at how the popular thing to do is to bash Christians and defent Muslims. I have studied their religion, and to say it is a religion of peace is laughable. The religion of Islam by its very nature is a huge threat to anybody who is not part of it. I have Islamic friends, good friends, but and this is not something I can talk about with them because it is a sore subject, but the truth is that they have rarely ever even opened their Qu'rans. It isn't even so much about what is written, though you certianly don't find much evidence for a peacful religion if you bother to read the thing. The biggest problem is the conditioning these people go through. The things they are taught. They are taught to hate. And that is the biggest problem. Not the religion so much, but people being conditioned to hate. What do you do with that? How do you teach somebody not to hate you, when they have practically been fed this hatred since infancy? There is no real great solution to the problem. Definately not a non violent one. I know you are questioning why we are there in the first place. Well, Saddam could have prevented this whole thing, but he would not give in. In the amount of time he was given he had plenty of places to hid a good amount of weapons. If he didn't have any why not give in right away? No, this is not a black and white subject. Don't ever mistake it for one. This is a VERY complicated mess. Thank God it is not your mess to deal with Gomer. In war usually nobody wins, in this case I think the Iraqi people win. Even if not all of this generation feels that way, the next one might.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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Originally posted by: sean wookie
I wasn't talking about you Go-mer.


I'm far from a troll. I've been here for more than a year contributing to many things. It's funny how you compare me to people like He's Back.
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Originally posted by: C3PX
Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
You are 14.


Whoa! That was perhaps the harshest come back imaginable. Especially toward somebody who proclaims their youth with every post. Humerously Gomer, you use it as an insult and you claim to be much older than that, yet your arguaments and your posts, while not over puncuated and full of caps, have yet to make you seem older than that. You should at least directly address others comments. Instead you just say there must have been a morally higher action to take than the one taken. I must say, I am very happy you have nothing to do with ruling the country. WESHALLPRESERVE is getting a little extreme posting real pictures of real disembodied heads, but I understand the point he is trying to make. You do understand that some of these people whose bodies are now short one head were not all militants? There have been reporters and missionaries and plenty of others. And that is only to mention the American ones, they do this to their own plenty. Does that not make you feel uneasy? You know if they could get their hands on you, they would love to saw your head off, film it and broadcast it to the world. They don't give a damn how soft hearted your are towards them. I can't say war is any beautiful or glorious thing, it is awful. It is more awful than you know. But sometimes there are no alternatives. These people will stop at nothing to achieve their means. NO, not al Muslims are bad, but I laugh at how the popular thing to do is to bash Christians and defent Muslims. I have studied their religion, and to say it is a religion of peace is laughable. The religion of Islam by its very nature is a huge threat to anybody who is not part of it. I have Islamic friends, good friends, but and this is not something I can talk about with them because it is a sore subject, but the truth is that they have rarely ever even opened their Qu'rans. It isn't even so much about what is written, though you certianly don't find much evidence for a peacful religion if you bother to read the thing. The biggest problem is the conditioning these people go through. The things they are taught. They are taught to hate. And that is the biggest problem. Not the religion so much, but people being conditioned to hate. What do you do with that? How do you teach somebody not to hate you, when they have practically been fed this hatred since infancy? There is no real great solution to the problem. Definately not a non violent one. I know you are questioning why we are there in the first place. Well, Saddam could have prevented this whole thing, but he would not give in. In the amount of time he was given he had plenty of places to hid a good amount of weapons. If he didn't have any why not give in right away? No, this is not a black and white subject. Don't ever mistake it for one. This is a VERY complicated mess. Thank God it is not your mess to deal with Gomer. In war usually nobody wins, in this case I think the Iraqi people win. Even if not all of this generation feels that way, the next one might.


Gomer is just going to ignore this entire post and forget about it completely.
Now, on to Hamburger helper!
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I really didn't mean it as an insult.
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C3PX, I appreciate your response quite a bit, I am also glad things aren't up to me. I can screw up a microwave dinner on a good day.

I get the point about them being taught to hate us, and that is certainly not something one can easily stand by and allow.

I also agree about the benefit of a Saddam-free Iraq.

I just wonder if perhaps we are also being taught to hate them.

But really, as I said. I have no answers, and only question these things to hear your explainations.

Well especially the ones that remain civil.
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taught to hate them? I was forced in seventh grade to learn Islam for 2 months. while learning how bad the catholics were in the 16th hundreds, and how useless the jews are now. Thats in public school Gomer. To show how disgusting this was, the book said Gihad ment stuggle. In the direct translation, in means holy war btw. So no. We are not being taught to hate them.
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WESHALLPRESERVE, dude, we could show Gomer a picture of his family with their heads all cut off by these radicals and he still would not understand. He is gleefull that he upset you so much, I think you are one hell of a 14 year old and very smart. But ol' Gomer has baited and had you all along, you've made your point very well and clearly several times, quit playing up Gomers desire to see you lose control. Be the bigger man and let everybody who reads this thread for the next couple years see how dangerous Gomers way of thinking is to our lives. He's proven your point by his own words.
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Upset him? By pointing out his age?

Look, I'm sorry I upset you guys.
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Gomer knows how stupid he sounds but he forges ahead anyway. This guy's engine runs on a 50/50 blend of poop and panache. Like me I think you will all grow to love him. Gomer is so gay.

HARMY RULES

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If you guys were expecting me to be intelligent, I apologize for that too.

I didn't mean to imply that I was.
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
If you guys were expecting me to be intelligent, I apologize for that too.

I didn't mean to imply that I was.


We accept your apology.