Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic

Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
I don't have respect for defeatests that claim they are on the same sides as humanity, nor do I have no resepct for people that say that their religion calls for the death of anyone that is not associated with it.

So, you claim to be a defeatest when it comes to not killing, that you have to kill them before they kill you. Which is pretty much advocating the killing of people who do not share -your- beliefs.

I can see the point about killing someone in self defense. My point is we ended up acting on the paranoid assumption (one the was never substantiated) that they had weapons of mass destruction.

At what point is it "obvious" that we need to defend ourselves?

Now listen to me Gomer, if there was some wacky christian sect going all around the world blowing up places, doing suicide bombings EVERYDAY and beheading people, I would advocate the killing of them-Although that is not the case. It goes way beyond Religion and partisanship.
What do you mean obvious? Uss Cole, 1993 WTC bombings, September 11, Madrid, France, London, the innocent people in Iraq dieing everyday from car bombs and suicide missions, the genocides in almost all of Africa, the insane Palestinians with wanting as much as they can get from the Jews, even though the Jews have given them almost everything-One point here Gomer and others. EVERYTHING here has been done by Extremest Muslims. Not Christians, Not Catholics, Not Buddhists, Not Jews. No other religion has done this kind of damage to man kind but the Muslim Religion. I am not advocating for the wiping out of all Muslims on earth, I'm am advocating the death to those who practice this extreme brand of Islam from the 16th Century, now here in the 21'st. I am also aggravated because the Muslims here in this country are not doing enough to counter act this growing world view, which is making people wonder. This is sad.We are at the most obvious point here Gomer and others. This is the most obvious point we need to defend our selves.
Now on the topic of enviorment. People are so ill informed! Things are trying to be done to help our society. WE ARE GROWING, AND WE ARE PROGRESSING in this field. To say we are not is absolutely stupid. We cannot be like Brazil, which runs off ethanol, because we do not grow that much corn, and it took them 20 YEARS TO PREFECT THAT! The United States may be behind, but unlike some people bitching on forums and marching in the streets and being fucking retarded protesters doing nothing but sitting on streets durring rush hour about it, others (many people that wear suits and have big offices, along with middle-class normal folk as my self) are doing their part and are themselves advancing our society.