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What I find increasingly frustrating about these claims is that the person making the claim will never admit even the possibility of being wrong. Therefore, trying to reason with them becomes pointless. They only seek validation, not the truth.

70mm prints were different from 35mm prints. I thought this was common knowledge by now. But the differences were relatively minor, nothing like what has been described in this thread. There were some different wipes, a different shot/cut in the bacta scene, the establishing shot of the rebel fleet at the end, the holographic Emperor doesn't fade in, and some other things that I forget. The list can be found in the Film Score Monthly magazine that is being discussed. 70mm versions had a completely different sound mix as well, which mostly appears in the Special Edition. Many of the sound mix differences are also heard in the 1980 "Adventures of Luke Skywalker: Star Wars/The Empire Strikes Back" album.

I saw TESB exclusively in 70mm during its original theatrical run. It contained none of the grandiose claims in this thread. I didn't even see the 35mm version until it came out on home video.

The truth is memories are often deceptive. To this day, I have a memory of seeing an AT-ST step on an Ewok in ROTJ. Does that mean it happened? No, and I can admit that my memory is wrong.

Originally posted by: Laserman
So it was either in an early version, or was in a trailer or something somewhere, but I still haven't found it, or even another mention of it *anywhere*.

Laserman, the "So's life" dialog exchange between Han and Luke is in the novelization. That doesn't necessarily have to mean that you read the novel; however, you could have been influenced by someone who had, perhaps unintentionally or unknowingly.

The Starkiller's Guide to the Mono Sound Mix

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I haven't ever read the novel, not sure how I could be influenced by someone who had.

The problem was the disappointment at the line being missing, I can understand remembering a visual differently, or a garbled version of a line being in my memory, but two actual lines of dialogue, which it now turns out are in the novel I think strengthens the case that it was in a print at some point and was trimmed out later.

I'm trying to think of a way those lines could have been planted in my brain between the first 22 times I saw Star Wars and then next 17 times I saw it 6 months later (My dad was the projectionist at the local cinema at the time). I can't think of a logical way I could have received those lines into my head in between those two times. I admit it is possible, but I can't think of how it would have happened, other than if it was in a trailer or an ad.

When did the novel come out BTW?
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"So's life" is also in the Marvel comic. For years I was SURE that Empire's opening "STAR WARS" logo was blue. I was so sure that when Jedi came out I said "I wonder what color it will be this time". Now I know the blue logo was from the Empire trailers, not the movie.
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Originally posted by: The Starkiller
What I find increasingly frustrating about these claims is that the person making the claim will never admit even the possibility of being wrong. Therefore, trying to reason with them becomes pointless. They only seek validation, not the truth.

70mm prints were different from 35mm prints. I thought this was common knowledge by now. But the differences were relatively minor, nothing like what has been described in this thread. There were some different wipes, a different shot/cut in the bacta scene, the establishing shot of the rebel fleet at the end, the holographic Emperor doesn't fade in, and some other things that I forget. The list can be found in the Film Score Monthly magazine that is being discussed. 70mm versions had a completely different sound mix as well, which mostly appears in the Special Edition. Many of the sound mix differences are also heard in the 1980 "Adventures of Luke Skywalker: Star Wars/The Empire Strikes Back" album.

I saw TESB exclusively in 70mm during its original theatrical run. It contained none of the grandiose claims in this thread. I didn't even see the 35mm version until it came out on home video.

The truth is memories are often deceptive. To this day, I have a memory of seeing an AT-ST step on an Ewok in ROTJ. Does that mean it happened? No, and I can admit that my memory is wrong.

Originally posted by: Laserman
So it was either in an early version, or was in a trailer or something somewhere, but I still haven't found it, or even another mention of it *anywhere*.

Laserman, the "So's life" dialog exchange between Han and Luke is in the novelization. That doesn't necessarily have to mean that you read the novel; however, you could have been influenced by someone who had, perhaps unintentionally or unknowingly.


It's because I don't believe I'm wrong. If I did why would I bother trying to find a copy? I did present the possiblity that I'm nuts & maybe that movie melted my brain. I don't seek validation, just the copy of the bootleg of the cut of the film I believe I saw. Validation is overrated. Marc has audio tapes of the 1980 run in Seattle. I wonder if anybody else will come forward with something really good?

No doubt a tall order, but I'm hopeful.

Nope, wasn't the power of suggestion that caused my claim. The power of suggestion might get me to give up hope.

http://www.starwars.com/episode-v/bts/article/img/20060830_1_bg.jpg

I wonder if any other advance screenings?

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Marc, if you still have the cassette tape, that would be awesome.


Sorry... I just checked, and I don't have those cassettes anymore... I probably
had them 10 years ago, but not anymore...

Also, I just scanned the Cinefex ESB article, and I don't see any reference
to the last minute addition of the extra rebel fleet shot, so I don't know
where I read that.

Marc (no help at all)


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Originally posted by: The Starkiller
Like I said, rancher, there's no point in arguing. You say you saw it; I say you didn't. Nothing will change either of our minds.

Agreed, you say I didn't & like you'd actually know what I did see. It’s not like we were sitting in the same theatre together, right?
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It seems clear from quite a few memories from Canada :-), that it wasn't just that the 70mm release was different to the 35 mm release but that there was for a very limited time a different cut 70mm version showing in a few cinemas before the final 70mm cut was released.

This does correspond to a quote I heard just the other day when watching one of the making of star wars documentaries, I am sure it was actually on the voice over from building empire, I will have to watch it again to check and get an exact quote and who said it etc. But the quote was from one the main special effect guys I am sure this was while working on the empire release he said the he was really annoyed with George Lucas because they had the film finished and then a few weeks before the final release the got him in again to do more work on the film because they had decided to change a few things.

Will post a proper quote when I find it.

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Yes Ken Ralston is the guy you are talking about. He mentions that there were last minute changes to the frigate scene at the end of TESB. However, I am unable to confirm as to whether any preview audiences saw the film before these changes were made. Harrison Ford remembers sitting in one preview screening to judge the impact of the 'I know' line, so I guess it's possible. Though this version would undoubtedly only be seen by preview audiences and not the general publuc.

I am now in contact with someone who may be able to provide some more info. I will post in due course.

JD

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So it can be confirmed that the preview release was different.

Ken Ralston would only have been involved in those extra special effect shots so would not necessarily have mentioned or known any other changed (cut or inserted footage) that were in this preview release, but the fact that some major effect shots were not in the preview, I am guessing part of the now very familiar end sequence with the frigate. This means it’s very probable that the differences being remembered might have been in this preview version.

Perhaps they did decide to test this cut on a limited public audience in Canada before the major release in the US.

Regards

Wookie M

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Was really great to watch Building Empire very informative and enjoyable and some great behind the scenes footage of sets that haven't seen anywhere before. Was trying to find some reference shots of the falcon set (ring corridor and hold ) from the outside for ages let me know if you know where I could find any more. Thanks WM
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Well, by now we have all read the wikipedia blurb about the 70mm print of TESB

About a third of the way down

Well, I have managed to track down the origin of these observations. In the Jan/Feb 1997 issue of Movie Score magazine (also reported recently on T-Bone's site) Michael Matessino (SE Album editing and Assembly Supervisor) writes a hugely detailed article on the Trilogy's soundtracks. On page 15 of the magazine there is a side box entitled ' 70mm Strikes Back'. In addition to the details taken from this article and published on wikipedia it reports:

Michael Matessino, who saw both versions [35mm and 70m] around 70 times in 1980 kindly documented some of the differences.

- In the final scene there is no tracked music from 'Yoda and the Force'. The scene begins with the first establishing shot of the rebel fleet, then cuts inside the Falcon for Lando to say "Luke, we're ready for take-off" (but a different take of this is used. After Luke says (voice over), "Good Luck Lando", the scene cuts to inside the Rebel Cruiser where Luke says "I'll meet you for the rendezvous" etc. Not in this version are two more establishing shots of the fleet and an interim effects shot over which lando says "When we find Jabba the Hutt and that bounty hunter we'll contact you".


For explanation he adds:

Track 12. The Rebel Fleet/End Title: In 70mm versions of the films, the final scene began with this cue. Preperations of these prints began before the film was 'locked', so the 35mm version contains several differences. The most prominent is the includion of extra dialogue and a few additional effects shots to the closing scene. The re-edited sequence required the tracking of a section from 'Yoda and the Force' to precede 'The Rebel Fleet'. For both prints a few bars of 'The Rebel Fleet' were eliminated.

So there you have it, the 70mm print of TESB is indeed different, but not that different.

Interestingly the article also informs us that the 70mm print of ROTJ used the 'Main Title' from 'Empire', but no one has ever been able to determine why.

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Originally posted by: Sluggo
I don't trust the wiki.


Neither do I, but this Movie Score magazine articles preceeds it. The Wiki entry is taken almost word for word from this article, not the other way around.

Lets face it, we won't know unless one of us tracks down a 70mm print and takes a look. But this is the next best thing.

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In the final scene there is no tracked music from 'Yoda and the Force'. The scene begins with the first establishing shot of the rebel fleet, then cuts inside the Falcon for Lando to say "Luke, we're ready for take-off" (but a different take of this is used. After Luke says (voice over), "Good Luck Lando", the scene cuts to inside the Rebel Cruiser where Luke says "I'll meet you for the rendezvous" etc. Not in this version are two more establishing shots of the fleet and an interim effects shot over which lando says "When we find Jabba the Hutt and that bounty hunter we'll contact you".


Yes, this matches my recollection (which was based on that cassette tape of the 70mm showing in Seattle that I listened to many times). And I didn't see a sneak preview -- it had probably been playing for weeks when I saw it.

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Originally posted by: Jambe Davdar
Originally posted by: Sluggo
I don't trust the wiki.


Neither do I, but this Movie Score magazine articles preceeds it. The Wiki entry is taken almost word for word from this article, not the other way around.

Lets face it, we won't know unless one of us tracks down a 70mm print and takes a look. But this is the next best thing.


Thanks everyone for looking into this further.

70mm versions:

#1 - THE ADVANCE CUT (The likely intended sneak preview/extended & different test cut - low # of prints)

Edmonton, AB (Canada) Start of this thread.
Chicago, IL (U.S.A.) Maybe. Amazon claim provided by Laserman.
Germany Claim provided by Laserman.

This Advance Cut might be the same as the one shown May 6th, 1980 @ Fox Studios.


#2 - THE UNFINISHED CUT (The majorty of the first-wave engagements & the "less complete" version)


#3 - THE EXPANSION CUT (The second-wave engagements released on June 18, 1980 & June 27, 1980. Likely used for all future re-releases)


I'm sure many here have given this a glance or two. This was a fun read for me. I'm convinced that this is one of the shooting scripts & pretty much the the 1st. key to advance cut of the film without a doubt.

The 1st. 4th Draft of TESB
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Originally posted by: rancher
Originally posted by: Jambe Davdar
Originally posted by: Sluggo
I don't trust the wiki.


Neither do I, but this Movie Score magazine articles preceeds it. The Wiki entry is taken almost word for word from this article, not the other way around.

Lets face it, we won't know unless one of us tracks down a 70mm print and takes a look. But this is the next best thing.


Thanks guys for looking into this further.

70mm versions

#1 - Advance Cut (The likely intended sneak preview cut small # of prints)
Edmonton (Canada)
maybe Chicago (U.S.A.) at one or two theatres (Amazon claim provided by Laserman)
claim from Germany - link from a previous post & provided by Laserman

This advance cut may be the same as the one shown May.6th, 1980 @ The Fox Studios.

I'm sure many here have given this a glance or two. This was a fun read for me. I'm convinced that this is the shooting script & pretty much the advance cut of the film without a doubt.

the link:
http://starwarz.com/starkiller/scripts/empire_fourth_draft.htm

the others:

#2 - Unfinished Cut (1st. wave of release)

#3 - The Expansion Cut (Official Cut - the 2nd. wave of release & likely the only cut used again for future re-releases)


That script is the fourth draft, written way back in November of 1978 i believe. There was another revision done, then a fifth draft written in february of 1979 in preparation for shooting in March. The script itself underwent some fairly extensive changes even from the shooting script however (the real shooting script that is, dont know why the fourth draft is mislabelled as such).
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Originally posted by: zombie84
Originally posted by: rancher
Originally posted by: Jambe Davdar
Originally posted by: Sluggo
I don't trust the wiki.


Neither do I, but this Movie Score magazine articles preceeds it. The Wiki entry is taken almost word for word from this article, not the other way around.

Lets face it, we won't know unless one of us tracks down a 70mm print and takes a look. But this is the next best thing.


Thanks everyone for looking into this further.

70mm versions:

#1 - THE ADVANCE CUT (The likely intended sneak preview/extended & different test cut - low # of prints)

Edmonton, AB (Canada) Start of this thread.
Chicago, IL (U.S.A.) Maybe. Amazon claim provided by Laserman.
Germany Claim provided by Laserman.

This Advance Cut might be the same as the one shown May 6th, 1980 @ Fox Studios.


#2 - THE UNFINISHED CUT (The majorty of the first-wave engagements & the "less complete" version)


#3 - THE EXPANSION CUT (The second-wave engagements released on June 18, 1980 & June 27, 1980. Likely used for all future re-releases)


I'm sure many here have given this a glance or two. This was a fun read for me. I'm convinced that this is one of the shooting scripts & pretty much the the 1st. key to advance cut of the film without a doubt.

The 1st. 4th Draft of TESB


That script is the fourth draft, written way back in November of 1978 i believe. There was another revision done, then a fifth draft written in february of 1979 in preparation for shooting in March. The script itself underwent some fairly extensive changes even from the shooting script however (the real shooting script that is, dont know why the fourth draft is mislabelled as such).



The beginning right up to leaving Hoth seems to be pretty much dead on in the 4th draft from 10/24/1978, but some of the Bespin stuff is right out there. I am thinking that this or maybe the 4.R draft script was used to shoot the first part of the film. I will say that almost everything up to the end of Hoth was filmed. Minor dialogue changes from what I read in this 1st. 4th draft. Reading this was the next best thing to actually seeing this cut again.

Here is the list of the shooting scripts:

TESB.4.
October 24, 1978.
The Empire Strikes Back.
Fourth Draft by Lawrence Kasdan. Shooting Script.
Source: Bouzereau: p. 123.
A Lawrence Kasdan quote from Starlog # 51 (October 1981): "[When he accepted the Empire assignment, Kasdan was handed a second draft script to work from that George Lucas had written.] George's draft was something that he wrote very quickly, when Leigh passed away. George had the story very well outlined […]"
A Lawrence Kasdan quote from Cinefantastique Vol. 28, No. 28 (February 1997): "What I worked on was a draft of the script George had written, based on the story George had given to Leigh [Brackett]. I don't know what of Leigh's draft survived into the draft George wrote. What George handed me was a very rough first draft, really somewhere between an outline and a first draft. The structure of the story was all there - it was the skeleton for a movie. What was needed was the flesh and the muscle."

November 1978.
Script Conference for two weeks between George Lucas, Lawrence Kasdan, Irvin Kershner & Gary Kurtz. (Apparently, no transcript exists since Bouzereau does not mention this conference.)
Source: Pollock: p. 229.

TESB.4.R.
December 5, 1978-January 1 & 4, 1979.
The Empire Strikes Back.
Revised Fourth Draft by Lawrence Kasdan. 163 pages. 435 scenes. Shooting script.

February 19, 1979
Correspondence from Irvin Kershner to George Lucas, regarding revisions to pages 143-160.
Source: Bouzereau: p. 123.

TESB.5.
February 20, 1979.
The Empire Strikes Back.
Fifth Draft by Lawrence Kasdan. Shooting Script.

TESB.5.R.
March 19, July 23, August 24 1979.
The Empire Strikes Back.
Revised Fifth Draft by Lawrence Kasdan. 157 pages. 435 scenes. Shooting Script.

All through 1979-1980.
Subsequent revisions from director Irvin Kershner and actors. Many of these dialogue changes were not to the liking of screenwriter Lawrence Kasdan.

Published Scripts:

TESB.PV.
November 1980.
The Empire Strikes Back.
Public Version of Revised Fifth Draft. No dates. No scene numbers. Edited to fit the finished film.
Printed in The Empire Strikes Back Notebook, Ballantine Books 1980. Edited by Diana Attias & Lindsay Smith.

List from:
The Connoisseur's Guide to the Scripts of the Star Wars Saga

I am unable to find any others & I would like to compare these scripts. Anybody know the links?

BTW thanks zombie84. I wouldn't have looked at these without your persistent technical readouts.
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I still haven't been able to find the 4.R draft or the 1st. 5th draft. Could somebody please PM them to me? Jambe?

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TESB.5.

Where are those wascually wabbits?
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Fourth draft should be here:

http://www.starwarz.com/starkiller/scripts.htm
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The fourth draft wasn't used to shot any part of the film. Its pretty wildly different from the film, containing many sequences that were changed, cut out and heavily refised, and even a look at the dialog itself reveals a pretty different incarnation of the film, close as it may be to the final version--this is no surprise considering it was written six months before production, and even before major pre-production had begun. A version of the fifth draft is available in all those "Star Wars script books", including The Annotated Screenplays itself.
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Originally posted by: Wookie_Monster
Fourth draft should be here:

http://www.starwarz.com/starkiller/scripts.htm



Your link was actually the 1st. site I came across when searching Friday. It doesn't have the 2 drafts I'm looking for.

Thanks anyways.
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Originally posted by: zombie84
The fourth draft wasn't used to shot any part of the film. Its pretty wildly different from the film, containing many sequences that were changed, cut out and heavily refised, and even a look at the dialog itself reveals a pretty different incarnation of the film, close as it may be to the final version--this is no surprise considering it was written six months before production, and even before major pre-production had begun. A version of the fifth draft is available in all those "Star Wars script books", including The Annotated Screenplays itself.


Yes I know the dialogue is wildly different. That is something that I haven't discussed yet & that's why I'm saying that this and/or maybe the 4.R (which I haven't found yet & would like to compare) was used to shoot everything on Hoth. It was just like it was written in this 4th draft script aside when the director or one the actors made a change for whatever reason, however slight or very minor. All of the scenes for the Hoth part of the script were filmed & in the cut aside from the rebel soldiers conflict with the Wampa. That scene wasn’t quite like it was in this 1st. 4th draft of the script.

Here is perfect example(alternate take/more dialogue)

Find:

45. INT COMMAND CENTER - REBEL BASE up to 54. SPACE - IMPERIAL FLEET

I'm going to knock on the impossible door again & say I can remember ALL of that dialogue exactly being in the cut I describe in scenes 45-54. My memory IS that good. It's a great example of the scope of the dialogue cuts made throughout the Hoth footage that were still in the cut I describe.

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This 4th draft quickly goes completely out the window after leaving Hoth. I think by this point they moved on to using a newer draft after filming Hoth & that is another reason I would like to see the scripts I'm requesting. You say the 4th draft is incorrectly labeled as the shooting script. I don't believe that at all based on the cut of the film I did see.

I am thinking that these later script drafts plus their revisions became the chopping scripts & the shooting script for the mid-end of the film as opposed to being strictly shooting scripts at some point during the filming process as George, the writer plus the editors were looking over the shot footage & trying to figure out how the rest of the movie, particularly the Bespin footage should play out. Maybe they also used the following scripts as some possible type of editing guide & revision guide to update any dialogue that may have been changed by the actors/director etc as the filming went along. Until I read the other two scripts & see about getting a copy of the Making of TESB pocketbook (looks pretty easy to get one sent/found a source on the net) it’s just my best guess at how the film was put together at this point.

I think that they used all these drafts I listed to shoot the film & the later ones to also help edit the film. It would have also certainly made it harder for spies/untrustworthy production members inside/outside the filming to leak the script & spoil the end cliffhanger for the film's future audiences. I'm sure that a stolen script for SW2 would have fetched some big cash prior to release.

Humor me for a little while longer, even if you still don't or never will buy what I'm saying.
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The fourth draft wasn't used to shoot any of the film. It was written months before production began. A new draft was penned just before shooting. The fourth draft is the fourth draft, not a shooting script. And it goes out the window even on Hoth--theres different scenes of the rebel P.A announcers fighting Imperials and many different such scenes. Productions don't use one draft to shoot one section of the film and then another draft to shoot another section--if theres stuff in the fourth draft that they liked then thats carried over into the next one. But keep clutching at those straws.
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Originally posted by: rancher
Originally posted by: zombie84
The fourth draft wasn't used to shot any part of the film. Its pretty wildly different from the film, containing many sequences that were changed, cut out and heavily refised, and even a look at the dialog itself reveals a pretty different incarnation of the film, close as it may be to the final version--this is no surprise considering it was written six months before production, and even before major pre-production had begun. A version of the fifth draft is available in all those "Star Wars script books", including The Annotated Screenplays itself.

Yes I know the dialogue is wildly different. That is something that I haven't discussed yet & that's why I'm saying that this and/or maybe the 4.R (which I haven't found yet & would like to compare) was used to shoot everything on Hoth. It was just like it was written in this 4th draft script aside when the director or one the actors made a change for whatever reason, however slight or very minor. All of the scenes for the Hoth part of the script were filmed & in the cut aside from the rebel soldiers conflict with the Wampa. That scene wasn’t quite like it was in this 1st. 4th draft of the script.

Here is perfect example(alternate take/more dialogue)

Find:

45. INT COMMAND CENTER - REBEL BASE up to 54. SPACE - IMPERIAL FLEET

I'm going to knock on the impossible door again & say I can remember ALL of that dialogue exactly being in the cut I describe in scenes 45-54. My memory IS that good. It's a great example of the scope of the dialogue cuts made throughout the Hoth footage that were still in the cut I describe.

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This 4th draft quickly goes completely out the window after leaving Hoth. I think by this point they moved on to using a newer draft after filming Hoth & that is another reason I would like to see the scripts I'm requesting. You say the 4th draft is incorrectly labeled as the shooting script. I don't believe that at all based on the cut of the film I did see.

I am thinking that these later script drafts plus their revisions became the chopping scripts & the shooting script for the mid-end of the film as opposed to being strictly shooting scripts at some point during the filming process as George, the writer plus the editors were looking over the shot footage & trying to figure out how the rest of the movie, particularly the Bespin footage should play out. Maybe they also used the following scripts as some possible type of editing guide & revision guide to update any dialogue that may have been changed by the actors/director etc as the filming went along. Until I read the other two scripts & see about getting a copy of the Making of TESB pocketbook (looks pretty easy to get one sent/found a source on the net) it’s just my best guess at how the film was put together at this point.

I think that they used all these drafts I listed to shoot the film & the later ones to also help edit the film. It would have also certainly made it harder for spies/untrustworthy production members inside/outside the filming to leak the script & spoil the end cliffhanger for the film's future audiences. I'm sure that a stolen script for SW2 would have fetched some big cash prior to release.

Humor me for a little while longer, even if you still don't or never will buy what I'm saying.


Originally posted by: zombie84
The fourth draft wasn't used to shoot any of the film. It was written months before production began. A new draft was penned just before shooting. The fourth draft is the fourth draft, not a shooting script. And it goes out the window even on Hoth--theres different scenes of the rebel P.A announcers fighting Imperials and many different such scenes. Productions don't use one draft to shoot one section of the film and then another draft to shoot another section--if theres stuff in the fourth draft that they liked then thats carried over into the next one. But keep clutching at those straws.


Yes, I know what you are getting at & I know that it was written before the shoot. I think this production did in fact use more than one script & they may have for possibly reasons that I gave in my last post. I don't believe any of these draft scripts are mislabeled. Why do you think that they are? Yes, there are more scenes/alternate versions of scenes (like in my example)/much more dialogue that we haven't talked about yet that were also cut. Rebel P.A. announcers fighting Imperials??? You are over generalizing about how all movie productions work & you also did just that with the 70mm printing process earlier. I don't believe the production process was so black & white with TESB.

BTW I still haven't found the scripts for 4.R & the 1st. 5th draft. Do they not exsit in the fan circles?
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I am thinking that I am not going to find these 4.R & 1st 5th draft scripts at all.

Here is something interesting I found searching:

184. PRODUCER'S SCRIPT FOR STAR WARS: THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK (Maybe one of the master amendment/finalization/editing bibles?)


This is the complete shooting script for TESB, used by producer Gary Kurtz during filming. Many of the scripts used filming were incomplete, as some aspects of the film's storyline & dialogue were kept secret even from etc. however contains some divergences in dialogue etc.


4th draft (incomplete) shooting script, 4.R draft (incomplete) shooting script etc...The Mask of TESB?


183. SCRIPT REVISION OF THE FOURTH DRAFT OF STAR WARS: THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK

It is 59 pages of changes annotated by GL, changes in red. (Anybody have it?)


You will need to have Adobe Acrobat Reader installed to view the pdf (Free).

Some very cool stuff in this file & don't forget to zoom.
VIEW THE PDF