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zombie84
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Hey guys, Remember when Star wars had writing like this?
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19-Dec-2006, 9:28 PM
I agree that a lot of the divide would cease if the OOT was available in equal status. Just like fans who loved Star Wars in 1977 but thought the sequels weren't very good moved on thirty years ago and do not pester ESB/ROTJ fans, a similar occurence would happen--PT fans could enjoy those film and OOT fans would think they are idiots but otherwise leave them alone.

But i am not as optomistic that that is all it would take. Lucas has basically ensured that there will always be debate as long as there are OOT fans around--because he has subsequently created another film series that uses those films in their plot. When i watch Empire Strikes Back, i am not really watching the same film as, say, Go-Mer Tonic, or any PT gushers--for them, the film is interpreted and viewed in a completely different manner. I have noticed this problem begun to creep in to TFN about a year ago once the six-episode "Saga"-with-a-capitol-S was complete and the fans slowly began drifting towards their respective versions. For PT/OT preference it is one thing, because the OT'ers can just ignore the other side--but the PT lovers don't ignore the OT because it is part of their series as well. Theres no such thing as "just a PT fan" as there is with "just an OT fan." Because of this, there is inevitable overlap--take a look at the "Classic Trilogy" forum on TFN: discussion can ask a question, and get two different answers, ones that aren't just in disagreement over speculation but that aren't compatible with each other because the issues interpretated by the PT fan don't exist in the OT by itself. The PT fan will look at Obi Wan walking up to Chewie in the cantina and say "he knew Chewie would help because he knew the wookies helped the Jedi long ago and maybe Yoda even mentioned Chewie's name since they were combat comrades in the clone war"--but the OT fan will just stare back in bewilderment and say "what the fuck are you talking about?"

There are actually three different film series that all use Star Wars as the basis for the content.
The first is Star Wars, the 1977 film as a stand-alone fairy tale about Luke growing up and becoming a hero.
The second is the OT, the 1977-1983 series about Luke becoming a Jedi, redeeming his father and toppling the Empire with his Rebel friends.
The third is the PT-OT I-VI "Saga", the Tragedy of Darth Vader, concerning Anakin Skywalkers rise, fall and redemption, set alongside the fall of the republic and then rise and fall of the Empire and Sith.

There is even an intermediate version of the three in the 1997 SE, which would be used as part of any of the versions.

Fans of the first version aren't around because there is no such place to discuss only the 1977 film and its universe. The second two groups however must share, and the two films they discuss not only are not the same but are usually incompatible or contradictory. Lucas is ultimately trying to do to that second group--the OOT fans, us--what happened to the first group of Star Wars-only fans: be gradually squeezed out as members of subsequent versions gain in number and overthrow the old group as the dominant interpretation of the series.