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Originally posted by: Batman Beyond
Also, what do you all think of the idea of taking an irrelevant Brosnan or Dalton, spy-related, movie, and turn it into a prequel to TLD, LTK, GE, TND, TWINE and DAD? I only want to seperate the film from the Connery-Moore entries, since with the new CR and all, I like to believe that the Daltona and Brosnan entries are a seperate universe to the Connery/Moore (Moore can still, somewhat, convince me he's the same Bond with Connery), with OHMSS a common link to both - it happened in both universes, that is.
Well, what do you think?
Also, what do you all think of the idea of taking an irrelevant Brosnan or Dalton, spy-related, movie, and turn it into a prequel to TLD, LTK, GE, TND, TWINE and DAD? I only want to seperate the film from the Connery-Moore entries, since with the new CR and all, I like to believe that the Daltona and Brosnan entries are a seperate universe to the Connery/Moore (Moore can still, somewhat, convince me he's the same Bond with Connery), with OHMSS a common link to both - it happened in both universes, that is.
Well, what do you think?
I like it. Its far more feasible to think of that scenario (that the Connery-Lazenby-Moore films are one era, the Dalton-Brosnan another, and Craig now yet another one), then thinking how TLD could ever follow AVTAK. I like the fact that Dalton and Brosnan in their films brought a more introspective look in the character. Their movies felt more Fleming (even with the, at times, unnecessary action) than the Fleming-based titles of the movies Moore stared in. So I like it as an idea. Now all you need is a film that preludes that Bond, I guess.
I just had a fantastic idea - why not re-edit OHMSS as a prequel to the Dalton-Brosnan entries? I understand that Bond in that film is at his best and most experienced, and the re-edit shouldn't try that - but with a clever re-edit, you can allude that Bond's been doing it for a while and been tired of it. It'd be a nice parallel to CR, where Bond also had intentions to leave.
Hear this: Cut out any references to the Connery films, and if possible, to SPECTRE - with loop, it could be any other organization. And at the end, you could create a whole new ending on which Blofeld is killed.
I haven't figured how such an edit should be handled, but it has promise. The reason of even thinking about this is because of the obvious fact that Bond's wife is been referenced in LTK and TWINE. And slightly in TND.
What do you think? What do you ALL think?
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Originally posted by: FanFiltration
Cut "California Girls" out of "A View to a Kill" or replace it with Barry score with some new gun shots...
In fact, just let's forget this film... ;}
Cut "California Girls" out of "A View to a Kill" or replace it with Barry score with some new gun shots...
In fact, just let's forget this film... ;}
I see... That bad?
But still, there must be SOME way of rectifying it... I'm positive of that.
Anyone else who has seen the film that can tell?
And coconuts.... I don't know. Tinkering with a classic? How do you suppose it is re-edited into a Dalton-Brosnan prequel? I mean, isn't it too old, so to speak?
I don't say I'm not open to the idea. Although I would still have prefered a Dalton-Brosnan film re-modfied.
Well?
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Originally posted by: Batman Beyond
But still, there must be SOME way of rectifying it... I'm positive of that.
Anyone else who has seen the film that can tell?
And coconuts.... I don't know. Tinkering with a classic? How do you suppose it is re-edited into a Dalton-Brosnan prequel? I mean, isn't it too old, so to speak?
I don't say I'm not open to the idea. Although I would still have prefered a Dalton-Brosnan film re-modfied.
Well?
But still, there must be SOME way of rectifying it... I'm positive of that.
Anyone else who has seen the film that can tell?
And coconuts.... I don't know. Tinkering with a classic? How do you suppose it is re-edited into a Dalton-Brosnan prequel? I mean, isn't it too old, so to speak?
I don't say I'm not open to the idea. Although I would still have prefered a Dalton-Brosnan film re-modfied.
Well?
OK, I've made a short list of changes that could be made on OHMSS to make it both a unique film on its own, meaning NOT a blatant repeat of OHMSS, while also different.
Start the film a little differently. Cut (for the moment) the scene where M asks where Bond is, but rather, create a whole new scene, which features entirely Q. Shots and moments from the Connery/Moore films where Q is lecturing about some gadget he's made. You could get any shots that don't require showing Bond's face. Then, Q presents his new car to Bond, which will be his Aston Martin. Then, we see him riding the road as in the film. The film goes on as it is.
Then, after Bond finds Contessa's shoes, cut the "This never happened to the other fella" line and create a whole new title sequence. The song, instead of the (amazingly good, so wonderful) OHMSS theme, place "Mister Kiss Kiss Bang Bang", because the lyrics could be used to re-introduce Bond for this series that contains the Dalton and Brosnan entries. Likewise, whenever the OHMSS theme is featured, it should be replaced by either an adventurous rendition of the KKBB song, or something David Arnold-esque (he has quite a few adventure themes on his own).
Cut out any references to Lazenby being Connery Bond, since it tries to be a film that launches stories, doesn't continue others, with no ties to other Bonds. So Moneypenny's "even more so" should be cut and his office's scene shortened.
If possible, cut out references to SPECTRE. If possible, too, rename it to something more contemporary. Keep Blofeld, since he was and always be Bond's nemesis.
Any possible reference(s) to this being set in the 60's. It has to pass up as being set, at the very least, 10 years prior to "The Living Daylights". It can't be 1969 for the Dalton/Brosnan films.
After Tracy's shot, fade in slowly on Athens. There, you see Blofeld with some woman (Claudia Cardinale, from the film "Escape to Athena"), and we get the idea that he joined some revolutionaries. Then, we see Felix Leiter (David Hedison, from the film "Live and Let Die"), who's apparently speaking to Bond, as he calls him James. He has apparently informed that Blofeld is in Greece. Then, we see Blofeld answering the phone, and as we see Blofeld 's surprise at hearing Bond (he says his name "Bond, James Bond"), a bomb goes off. Then we cut to a close up to Tracy's grave (still shot from "For Your Eyes Only"'s pre-credit sequence). We then hear (that can't be Lazenby's voice, obviously) Bond say "Rest, my love. The bastard is dead." and credits with Bond theme.
Well? What do you all think? Would this kind of re-edit pass up nicely as a prequel to the Dalton/Brosnan movies? I think it could...
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Originally posted by: Batman Beyond
I bump this up to ask about CR. Anyone know how can I find the FULL version of CR 54?
I bump this up to ask about CR. Anyone know how can I find the FULL version of CR 54?
FanFiltration just told you: At Amazon. It's not on DVD, so you'll have to capture it.
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Thats why I persistently ask about it. Anywho, I would still like an opinion on how that entry could be re-edited. Meaning, the opinion of somehow who actually saw it. I can only speculate.
And coconuts..... Thats a really interesting take. I never thought of it that way. You gave OHMSS a whole new spin. The suggestions you made could very well do the trick for the film to be re-edited as a prequel to Dalton/Brosnan... Problem is, as you said, it might evoke too much of a 60's feel, but that can be solved, I believe.
I guess we could think of that... But what do the others say about it?
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Also, I have already bought a VHS to DVD transfer from ebay that is region free and works on my PAL setup. I am sure it is the full version.
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I have picked up this DVD from ebay uk.
The official VHS is still available to buy on ebay and I am sure that a worldwide search there will find more copies for sale.
I have picked up this DVD from ebay uk.
The official VHS is still available to buy on ebay and I am sure that a worldwide search there will find more copies for sale.
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Originally posted by: coconuts86
I just had a fantastic idea - why not re-edit OHMSS as a prequel to the Dalton-Brosnan entries?
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The reason of even thinking about this is because of the obvious fact that Bond's wife is been referenced in LTK and TWINE. And slightly in TND.
I just had a fantastic idea - why not re-edit OHMSS as a prequel to the Dalton-Brosnan entries?
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The reason of even thinking about this is because of the obvious fact that Bond's wife is been referenced in LTK and TWINE. And slightly in TND.
The wife is also referenced in The Spy Who Loved Me when Agent XXX meets Bond at a bar. So moving OHMSS to a post-Moore position doesn't work.
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Originally posted by: auximenies
The wife is also referenced in The Spy Who Loved Me when Agent XXX meets Bond at a bar. So moving OHMSS to a post-Moore position doesn't work.
Originally posted by: coconuts86
I just had a fantastic idea - why not re-edit OHMSS as a prequel to the Dalton-Brosnan entries?
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The reason of even thinking about this is because of the obvious fact that Bond's wife is been referenced in LTK and TWINE. And slightly in TND.
I just had a fantastic idea - why not re-edit OHMSS as a prequel to the Dalton-Brosnan entries?
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The reason of even thinking about this is because of the obvious fact that Bond's wife is been referenced in LTK and TWINE. And slightly in TND.
The wife is also referenced in The Spy Who Loved Me when Agent XXX meets Bond at a bar. So moving OHMSS to a post-Moore position doesn't work.
I don't think coconuts suggests moving it from where it was. He suggests re-editing it as another version of the film, suited for the Dalton/Brosnan continuity.
So the original OHMSS could exist as is in the Connery-Moore continuity, whereas the re-edited OHMSS that coconuts suggested, it would serve as the first film of the Dalton/Brosnan continuity.
I like the idea too, because it gives the Dalton/Brosnan Bond to have some sort of history. TWINE and LTK are especially based on that film's character basis, so such re-edit could serve a purpose.
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Originally posted by: Batman Beyond
I don't think coconuts suggests moving it from where it was. He suggests re-editing it as another version of the film, suited for the Dalton/Brosnan continuity.
So the original OHMSS could exist as is in the Connery-Moore continuity, whereas the re-edited OHMSS that coconuts suggested, it would serve as the first film of the Dalton/Brosnan continuity.
I like the idea too, because it gives the Dalton/Brosnan Bond to have some sort of history. TWINE and LTK are especially based on that film's character basis, so such re-edit could serve a purpose.
Originally posted by: auximenies
The wife is also referenced in The Spy Who Loved Me when Agent XXX meets Bond at a bar. So moving OHMSS to a post-Moore position doesn't work.
Originally posted by: coconuts86
I just had a fantastic idea - why not re-edit OHMSS as a prequel to the Dalton-Brosnan entries?
<snip>
The reason of even thinking about this is because of the obvious fact that Bond's wife is been referenced in LTK and TWINE. And slightly in TND.
I just had a fantastic idea - why not re-edit OHMSS as a prequel to the Dalton-Brosnan entries?
<snip>
The reason of even thinking about this is because of the obvious fact that Bond's wife is been referenced in LTK and TWINE. And slightly in TND.
The wife is also referenced in The Spy Who Loved Me when Agent XXX meets Bond at a bar. So moving OHMSS to a post-Moore position doesn't work.
I don't think coconuts suggests moving it from where it was. He suggests re-editing it as another version of the film, suited for the Dalton/Brosnan continuity.
So the original OHMSS could exist as is in the Connery-Moore continuity, whereas the re-edited OHMSS that coconuts suggested, it would serve as the first film of the Dalton/Brosnan continuity.
I like the idea too, because it gives the Dalton/Brosnan Bond to have some sort of history. TWINE and LTK are especially based on that film's character basis, so such re-edit could serve a purpose.
Batman Beyond just nailed. Thats exactly what I had in mind for OHMSS. I love the film already, so the re-edit that I suggested is merely a modification for the Dalton/Brosnan Bond, who obviously had a wife that died unexpetedly. Plus, the Kiss Kiss Bang Bang song would be interesting to use, as it sets up Bond's character. And because it was a Bond song that was never used. And because the OHMSS theme should not be included in this version, as I think it would be better if the original retained the OHMSS theme (and variable score), while OHMSS presented this alternative for the very reason of being unique.
So, as Batman Beyond explained, it could be the Connery-Lazenby-Moore continuity, and the Lazenby-Dalton-Brosnan continuity, with two versions of OHMSS in use - one for Connery-Moore (the original version), and one for Dalton-Brosnan (the re-edit I suggest).
But do you all think of it, now?
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Has anyone seen the 1954 Bond film CASINO ROYALE?
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