To refer to my previous post, here's another major flaw in T3, but it's something that most people don't notice.

The T-850 is programmed to follow Katherine Brewster's commands, as he explains later in the movie:
Kate: "Thank you for doing this."
T-850: "Your gratitude is not required. I am programmed to follow your commands."
T-850 only has to obey Katherine Brewster, and not John Connor.

But what happens the first time that T-850 and Kate meet, at the vet? Look at the conversation:
T-850: "Katherine Brewster?"
T-850: "Where is John Connor?"
Kate: "If I tell you, will you let me go?"
T-850: "Yes."
Kate: "He's...in the kennel, in a cage. (..) You said that you'd let me go."
T-850: "I lied."
Kate: "Please, please, please. You have to let me go!"
First, I'm not sure if Kate screams "Let me down" or something while the T-850 carries her on his shoulder. If it's the case, this would already be an order that the T-850 disobeys.
Second, look at Kate's last line. "You have to let me go!" Another command that the T-850 already disobeys Kate at their first meeting. Not really a good way to make good impression on the one you have to obey. One could argue that in this case, Kate was in a dangerous situation and T-850 has a parameter that he is allowed to do his own thing to keep Kate safe, but I will overthrow this argument later.

Just after the crane chase, there's a little scene in which John and T-850 talk about memories:
T-850: "Katherine Brewster, have you sustained injury?"
Kate: "Drop dead, you asshole!"
T-850: "I'm unable to comply."
This line proves that if the T-850 can't follow one of Kate's command due some matter, he will tell her can't obey.

Some scenes later, on the cemetery, when kate points the gun at T-850:
Kate: "Out of my way!"
T-850: "My mission is to protect you."
If the T-850 is programmed to follow Kate's commands, why doesn't he get out of her way when she tells (= unknowingly ordering him) him to do?

During the hearse chase, when the T-X is on top of the hearse in which our heroic trio is driving:
Kate: "Do something!"
It is only after this line that the T-850 starts to drive widly in order to try to get the T-X off the hearse's roof. If he is programmed to protect his mission objectives (T-850: "My mission is to ensure the survival of John Connor and Katherine Brewster"), why does he act so late and only after Kate unknowingly gives him order?

After John, Kate and T-850 have talked about Judgment Day and how Kate's father is involved:
Kate: "Please do what he says. You have to save my father!"
Unknowingly, Kate has ordered the T-850 to follow John's command after this dialogue... but for what? To only follow's John's idea of going after Kate's father, or to follow every command John will give in the future?

During the desire scene:
John: "You can't kill a human being. You said so yourself."
Kate: "Let him go!"
Kate jumps on T-850's back, but T-850 throws her away.
So, while being infected with the T-X's nano that tries to control him, T-850 disobeys Kate's order again. Although now, there could be a valid reason because he is infected with the T-X's files.

Now, to overthrow the thought of T-850 being able to decide when to follow Kate's commands or not, in dangerous situations:
1. After John, Kate and T-850 have talked about Judgment Day and how Kate's father is involved: T-850 still follows Kate's commands of going to her father, while he clearly has stated that the concerning area will be most likely their end:
T-850: "The Mojave area will sustain significant nuclear fallout. You will not survive."
So, even when he has warned them that they will not survive, he follows Kate's command of going there. So this proves that he can't make a decission whether it's a dangerous situation for them or not.

2. To prove that they will follow the given commands over their own analyze of a dangerous situation, here's proof from T2:
John orders the T-800 to go to Pescadero State Hospital to save his mother, even though the T-800 warns him that it will be very dangerous because the T-1000 will go there also. Another sample of proof that the Terminator follows the commands over his own analyse of a dangerous situation.

3. Back to T3. The hearse chase. The T-X is on top of the roof, almost succeeding in killing them. It is only after Kate's line that the T-850 starts to act and tries to drive wildly to get the T-X of her roof. Why does he only act after Kate shouts her line? Why not some preventive action to protect his mission objecties? Is the T-850 able to analyze the situation and mark it like dangerous?

Anyway, conclusion of this long write is that IF the T-850 is programmed to follow Kate's commands, then when doesn't he obey all the time? He will obey the commands over dangerous situations. So it doesn't make sense at all, there's no logic. But it's something soo big and stretched out over the complete movie, that most people even fail to see this big error.

Originally posted by: Doctor M
It sounds like your knowledge of the 3 flicks blows mine away. I won't argue plot points any further...
I'll just wait for the NTSC edit and see for myself.

yes, I am a major Terminator fan. Perhaps one of the biggest on the net. I have discussed many Terminator things, so I know what I'm talking about. I have written a Terminator 4 script, made some Terminator trailers (including 4 for T4), and just recently edited T3 the way I thought I could improve it. I am webmaster of my own Termiantor - Hope Of The Future website, and I'm staffmember of the biggest Terminator site on the web: Terminator Files.
So yes, I know what I'm talking of ;-)