Originally posted by: Vigo
How can you say I´m being ignorant if you admit that all the reference points you have is, in fact, only your own country?
Originally posted by: lordjedi
LOL. Again, you're basing your comments on a Michael Moore esque documentary. There are plenty of differing schools of thought on what's causing global warming and vehicle emissions are but one of them. Don't just watch the "documentary", go investigate the facts for yourself. Every scientists here knows just as much as all the nations in Europe know about global warming too. This isn't a "Europe" vs "America" thing.
Originally posted by: Vigo
Originally posted by: lordjedi
I don't really have anything on topic to say, I'm just getting tired of seeing your constant ignorance toward what goes on in the U.S. Sure, I may not know much about what goes on in Germany, but you don't see me posting a bunch of negative talking points that I've heard on the news or talk radio.
Originally posted by: Nanner Split
Congratulations. That´s why Americans need movies like "An Inconvenient Truth", which explain facts that almost every nation in Europe knew 20-25 years ago. And yet, a lot of you seem to believe it is just a pro Gore, pro democratic propaganda plot.
Originall posted by: Vigo
Oh no! The Bratwurst! Mit Sauerkraut!
I recite: McDonald´s, Burger King, Pizza Hut, Kentucky Fried Chicken, Subway, Dunkin' Donuts,...... With lots of pancakes, sweet soda, a milkshake....
Come on guys! You produce more food than you can eat yourself! You are the inventors of FAST FOOD. "Super-Size-Me" is an American movie for a good reason.
Hey now, have you not seen Subway's commercials?! Subway is good for you!
Subway is good for you (leave off the mayo and mustard). Out of all the fast food places mentioned, Subway is probably the best place to eat. The proof is actually better than "Super-Size-Me". One takes a look at personal responsibility (Jared and Subway). The other takes a look at just taking everything fast food has to offer. The only thing "Super-Size-Me" proved is that as long as people don't even try to control themselves, they'll get bigger. Some other lady actually managed to lose weight on an all McDonald's diet, so take "Super-Size-Me" with a huge grain of salt.
Ummm... McDonald's Diet??? *LOL* Yes, one BigMac per day and a diet coke makes you healthy, wealthy and wise...
I can´t imagine how big the laughter would be if McDonald's would try such a marketing gag here.
Nevertheless, it's funny how fast McDonald's reacted to Super-Size-Me by introducing salads, trying to shake off the negative image. Imagine, SALADS!!!!! WHAT AN INNOVATION!!!
McDonald's diet. Two people lost about 30 pounds each, eating nothing but McDonald's.
McDonald's had salads for years before Super-Size-Me came out. The only thing Super-Size-Me did was make McDonald's try to inform people more about their salads. They're not trying to shake off a negative image from Super-Size-Me, they're trying to avoid a lawsuit, something people love doing in this country.
Yeah, because 50% of your gas price is tax. Take away all those taxes and our gas prices start to become about the same.
So what if we drive big cars. Yeah, maybe people shouldn't be driving around in giant cars that they don't need, but they're free to do that. It hits them in the pocket book everytime they fill up. I'm sure I can buy a car here that wouldn't be "ridiculously expensive" to drive over there. I obviously wouldn't buy an SUV though.
Originally posted by: Vigo
Originally posted by: lordjedi
And you might want to do some homework on the whole "ignoring thing" since we never fully approved it here (Clinton signed it, Congress did not approve it).
Oh no! The Bratwurst! Mit Sauerkraut!
I recite: McDonald´s, Burger King, Pizza Hut, Kentucky Fried Chicken, Subway, Dunkin' Donuts,...... With lots of pancakes, sweet soda, a milkshake....
Come on guys! You produce more food than you can eat yourself! You are the inventors of FAST FOOD. "Super-Size-Me" is an American movie for a good reason.
Hey now, have you not seen Subway's commercials?! Subway is good for you!
Subway is good for you (leave off the mayo and mustard). Out of all the fast food places mentioned, Subway is probably the best place to eat. The proof is actually better than "Super-Size-Me". One takes a look at personal responsibility (Jared and Subway). The other takes a look at just taking everything fast food has to offer. The only thing "Super-Size-Me" proved is that as long as people don't even try to control themselves, they'll get bigger. Some other lady actually managed to lose weight on an all McDonald's diet, so take "Super-Size-Me" with a huge grain of salt.
Ummm... McDonald's Diet??? *LOL* Yes, one BigMac per day and a diet coke makes you healthy, wealthy and wise...
I can´t imagine how big the laughter would be if McDonald's would try such a marketing gag here.Nevertheless, it's funny how fast McDonald's reacted to Super-Size-Me by introducing salads, trying to shake off the negative image. Imagine, SALADS!!!!! WHAT AN INNOVATION!!!
McDonald's diet. Two people lost about 30 pounds each, eating nothing but McDonald's.
McDonald's had salads for years before Super-Size-Me came out. The only thing Super-Size-Me did was make McDonald's try to inform people more about their salads. They're not trying to shake off a negative image from Super-Size-Me, they're trying to avoid a lawsuit, something people love doing in this country.
Originally posted by: Vigo
From a European perspective, both the USA and China are the big polluters, you are right. China is a 2nd world nation, and yes, they are indeed about to surpass you both in economical power and of course environmental pollution. So again, sorry if I have been sooo hard to Americans.
Just look at the gas prices you had when I was in San Francisco in October this year. 2,35$ per gallon!!!! Do you know how expensive fuel here in Europe is? 7$!!!!!! Look at the cars you drive. You are literally throwing energy away and flushing it down the toilet! Why? Because you can still afford it. Driving an American car in Germany is ridiculously expensive.
Originally posted by: lordjedi
I'm sure someone can name 5 or 6 German restaurants that if people ate at uncontrollably would cause the same problem. Remember, it doesn't matter if you eat at a nice restaurant or a fast food place, you can still get fat from eating to much fatty foods.
We don´t have our own fast food chains. The only fast food chains here are American. We used to have one (Wiener Wald), but it fell into obscurity when McDonald´s became popular among the youth here in the 80's and 90's.
Nevertheless, the most popular fast food in Germany is Turkish, and called Döner Kebap. Not the Bratwurst.....
And I sincerely hope you don't compare Restaurants here with fast food chains. I don't know what Restaurants you have over there...
I was not talking about fast food chains exclusively. I wasn't comparing them with restaurants either. I was simply making the statement that you could in fact do the same thing (gain lots of weight) by only eating out at restaurants if you don't pay attention to what you eat. It doesn't matter where you eat the junk food if that's all you're eating.
Originally posted by: Vigo
Originally posted by: lordjedi
I guess I expected a little better from you Vigo. Do some real research on the Kyoto treaty to see who the real gross polluters are (hint: it's not the U.S.) before you go spouting off about it. It's meant to cut emissions from "industrialized nations", but since China is still considered a third world nation, they get to continue to pollute as much as they want, even though they're one of the worst polluters on the planet right now.
I'm sure someone can name 5 or 6 German restaurants that if people ate at uncontrollably would cause the same problem. Remember, it doesn't matter if you eat at a nice restaurant or a fast food place, you can still get fat from eating to much fatty foods.
We don´t have our own fast food chains. The only fast food chains here are American. We used to have one (Wiener Wald), but it fell into obscurity when McDonald´s became popular among the youth here in the 80's and 90's.
Nevertheless, the most popular fast food in Germany is Turkish, and called Döner Kebap. Not the Bratwurst.....
And I sincerely hope you don't compare Restaurants here with fast food chains. I don't know what Restaurants you have over there...
I was not talking about fast food chains exclusively. I wasn't comparing them with restaurants either. I was simply making the statement that you could in fact do the same thing (gain lots of weight) by only eating out at restaurants if you don't pay attention to what you eat. It doesn't matter where you eat the junk food if that's all you're eating.
Originally posted by: Vigo
Originally posted by: lordjedi
I guess I expected a little better from you Vigo. Do some real research on the Kyoto treaty to see who the real gross polluters are (hint: it's not the U.S.) before you go spouting off about it. It's meant to cut emissions from "industrialized nations", but since China is still considered a third world nation, they get to continue to pollute as much as they want, even though they're one of the worst polluters on the planet right now.
From a European perspective, both the USA and China are the big polluters, you are right. China is a 2nd world nation, and yes, they are indeed about to surpass you both in economical power and of course environmental pollution. So again, sorry if I have been sooo hard to Americans.
Just look at the gas prices you had when I was in San Francisco in October this year. 2,35$ per gallon!!!! Do you know how expensive fuel here in Europe is? 7$!!!!!! Look at the cars you drive. You are literally throwing energy away and flushing it down the toilet! Why? Because you can still afford it. Driving an American car in Germany is ridiculously expensive.
Yeah, because 50% of your gas price is tax. Take away all those taxes and our gas prices start to become about the same.
So what if we drive big cars. Yeah, maybe people shouldn't be driving around in giant cars that they don't need, but they're free to do that. It hits them in the pocket book everytime they fill up. I'm sure I can buy a car here that wouldn't be "ridiculously expensive" to drive over there. I obviously wouldn't buy an SUV though.
Originally posted by: Vigo
Originally posted by: lordjedi
And you might want to do some homework on the whole "ignoring thing" since we never fully approved it here (Clinton signed it, Congress did not approve it).
Congratulations. That´s why Americans need movies like "An Inconvenient Truth", which explain facts that almost every nation in Europe knew 20-25 years ago. And yet, a lot of you seem to believe it is just a pro Gore, pro democratic propaganda plot.
LOL. Again, you're basing your comments on a Michael Moore esque documentary. There are plenty of differing schools of thought on what's causing global warming and vehicle emissions are but one of them. Don't just watch the "documentary", go investigate the facts for yourself. Every scientists here knows just as much as all the nations in Europe know about global warming too. This isn't a "Europe" vs "America" thing.
Originally posted by: Vigo
Originally posted by: lordjedi
I don't really have anything on topic to say, I'm just getting tired of seeing your constant ignorance toward what goes on in the U.S. Sure, I may not know much about what goes on in Germany, but you don't see me posting a bunch of negative talking points that I've heard on the news or talk radio.
How can you say I´m being ignorant if you admit that all the reference points you have is, in fact, only your own country?
Because you are being ignorant. Before, I thought you were making statements based on facts. Now, I can tell your statements are only based on negative talking points. You haven't actually done any research on what you've posted about. If you'd bother to spend a few minutes googling around about the stuff you posted about, you'd see that you've got most of it wrong.
I'm sure I can dig up plenty of crap about Germany. I just don't see the necessity to do it. I'll continue to go off topic as long as you continue to make grossly invalid statements in an "us" vs "them" tone.