Originally posted by: Mielr
Sorry Vigo, but you don't get to say things like "You are probably American, and will most probably never set foot on another continent besides your own. And if you do, the first thing you will do is heading to the next McDonald´s, avoiding exposure to too much foreign culture mixing up your precious little brain." and then try to avoid responsibility for what you've said by saying something lame like "sorry if I offended anyone".
Yeah, I´m really avoiding responsibility here. By saying that Germans, like every other nation, also has "bad traits" etc... You are agnry at me, ok fine, I can understand that. I realize I deserve it. But you are seriously wrong if you say that I am making it easy for myself now.
You made a gross generalization about Americans, and my response to you was way more polite than it should have been
Well, go ahead an be unpolite. I like honesty more than politeness. Other people obviously feel the other way around. And if you think that I´m gross, well, maybe I am, but perhaps maybe it is also true that you are taking yourself too fucking important right now. No one is perfect. Your nation is not perfect, my nation is not perfect. We both can be sterotyped in a certain way.
Now go ahead, hate me, if you feel better now! I for instance, don't hate you.
What a stupid assumption that if you mock and make fun of something, you atomatically hate it...
, and yet instead of apologizing, you went on to hurl some more insults at Americans?
Well, as I said again, nobody likes to be critized. Nobody likes other people holding up a mirror in front of you.
Again, I apologize to you. However, nevertheless, I stand by my statement that there is at least some truth in everything. If you can´t handle this, well, then I am truly sorry for you.
I don't assume that all Germans are Nazis, (and I've been to Germany, BTW, and my Grandfather was of German extraction- although he still fought in WWII to defend Europe against the Nazis), and I find it as offensive for you to call Americans "ignorant" as I'm sure you do for someone to refer to Germans as "Nazis".
I never said Americans are ignorant. I said Amiericans tend to be ignorant about the world >around< them. THIS IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE. A VERY HUGE DIFFERENCE. If you fail to realize these small, but important nuances in my statement, so be it. Go on, hate me. Hate makes you strong! Only your hate can destroy me now! Either you are with us or against us! Black or white! Zero or one! Friend or enemy!! American or Anti-American!!!
(Also, yes, you got something "serious wrong". Canadians are NOT referred to as "Americans" they are "Canadians". Mexicans also live in North America, and are referred to as "Mexicans"). Maybe if you had ever set foot in Canada or Mexico you would know that.
Of course I know that. Funny you automatically assume I wouldn´t know that. But you all are living on the American continent. And YOU are a citizen of the United States of America. Of course you could call Germans Germans, but you could also call us Europeans. But by saying you are European, you are not automatically assuming that the person you are talking to is German, French, English, Polish, etc... Whatever nation you think of. On the other hand, if I say "Americans", everyone assumes that citizens of the USA are adressed. Maybe it´s my weird Old-European(tm) thinking of different nations living together peacefully on the same continent, and treated equally, messing my brain up here.
It's too damn bad if you don't like George W. Bush - what he has to do with someone correcting your spelling I guess makes sense only in your own brain.
I didn´t say that. You do it now. By walking, simplifying and generalizing everything I wrote in the last posts. Okay, perhaps I deserve it, since I apparently was generalizing, too.
Originally posted by: Vigo
Well, telling a fat lady that she is, in fact, fat, is an insult, correct. A honest one, though.
...and would be extremely cruel and rude.
Rude, yes. But why cruel? You know what is in fact REALLY cruel? People talking behind your back! Smiling towards you, holding the knife behind them. YOu surely would like that, wouldn't you?
Originally posted by: bigmonkey20
I guess in Vigo's mind, we're all fat, lazy and ignorant.
Originally posted by: Vigo
Statistically, you are in fact the "fattest" nation on the planet. Everything concerning food coming from your culture is "fat fat fat". Does this say that all of you are fat?
Someone who comes from the country that invented bratwurst has a lot of nerve criticizing "fat" American food.
Oh no! The Bratwurst! Mit Sauerkraut!
I recite: McDonald´s, Burger King, Pizza Hut, Kentucky Fried Chicken, Subway, Dunkin' Donuts,...... With lots of pancakes, sweet soda, a milkshake....
Come on guys! You produce more food than you can eat yourself! You are the inventors of FAST FOOD. "Super-Size-Me" is an American movie for a good reason.
Originally posted by: VigoDid I say that all Americans are ignorant? Now YOU are being ignorant. An ignorant American. See what I mean?
And you are an ignorant German. See what I mean? Don't be offended, though! 
Sorry Vigo, but you don't get to say things like "You are probably American, and will most probably never set foot on another continent besides your own. And if you do, the first thing you will do is heading to the next McDonald´s, avoiding exposure to too much foreign culture mixing up your precious little brain." and then try to avoid responsibility for what you've said by saying something lame like "sorry if I offended anyone".
Yeah, I´m really avoiding responsibility here. By saying that Germans, like every other nation, also has "bad traits" etc... You are agnry at me, ok fine, I can understand that. I realize I deserve it. But you are seriously wrong if you say that I am making it easy for myself now.
You made a gross generalization about Americans, and my response to you was way more polite than it should have been
Well, go ahead an be unpolite. I like honesty more than politeness. Other people obviously feel the other way around. And if you think that I´m gross, well, maybe I am, but perhaps maybe it is also true that you are taking yourself too fucking important right now. No one is perfect. Your nation is not perfect, my nation is not perfect. We both can be sterotyped in a certain way.
Now go ahead, hate me, if you feel better now! I for instance, don't hate you.
What a stupid assumption that if you mock and make fun of something, you atomatically hate it...
, and yet instead of apologizing, you went on to hurl some more insults at Americans?
Well, as I said again, nobody likes to be critized. Nobody likes other people holding up a mirror in front of you.
Again, I apologize to you. However, nevertheless, I stand by my statement that there is at least some truth in everything. If you can´t handle this, well, then I am truly sorry for you.
I don't assume that all Germans are Nazis, (and I've been to Germany, BTW, and my Grandfather was of German extraction- although he still fought in WWII to defend Europe against the Nazis), and I find it as offensive for you to call Americans "ignorant" as I'm sure you do for someone to refer to Germans as "Nazis".
I never said Americans are ignorant. I said Amiericans tend to be ignorant about the world >around< them. THIS IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE. A VERY HUGE DIFFERENCE. If you fail to realize these small, but important nuances in my statement, so be it. Go on, hate me. Hate makes you strong! Only your hate can destroy me now! Either you are with us or against us! Black or white! Zero or one! Friend or enemy!! American or Anti-American!!!
(Also, yes, you got something "serious wrong". Canadians are NOT referred to as "Americans" they are "Canadians". Mexicans also live in North America, and are referred to as "Mexicans"). Maybe if you had ever set foot in Canada or Mexico you would know that.
Of course I know that. Funny you automatically assume I wouldn´t know that. But you all are living on the American continent. And YOU are a citizen of the United States of America. Of course you could call Germans Germans, but you could also call us Europeans. But by saying you are European, you are not automatically assuming that the person you are talking to is German, French, English, Polish, etc... Whatever nation you think of. On the other hand, if I say "Americans", everyone assumes that citizens of the USA are adressed. Maybe it´s my weird Old-European(tm) thinking of different nations living together peacefully on the same continent, and treated equally, messing my brain up here.
It's too damn bad if you don't like George W. Bush - what he has to do with someone correcting your spelling I guess makes sense only in your own brain.
I didn´t say that. You do it now. By walking, simplifying and generalizing everything I wrote in the last posts. Okay, perhaps I deserve it, since I apparently was generalizing, too.
Originally posted by: Vigo
Well, telling a fat lady that she is, in fact, fat, is an insult, correct. A honest one, though.
...and would be extremely cruel and rude.
Rude, yes. But why cruel? You know what is in fact REALLY cruel? People talking behind your back! Smiling towards you, holding the knife behind them. YOu surely would like that, wouldn't you?
Originally posted by: bigmonkey20
I guess in Vigo's mind, we're all fat, lazy and ignorant.
Originally posted by: Vigo
Statistically, you are in fact the "fattest" nation on the planet. Everything concerning food coming from your culture is "fat fat fat". Does this say that all of you are fat?
Someone who comes from the country that invented bratwurst has a lot of nerve criticizing "fat" American food.
Oh no! The Bratwurst! Mit Sauerkraut!
I recite: McDonald´s, Burger King, Pizza Hut, Kentucky Fried Chicken, Subway, Dunkin' Donuts,...... With lots of pancakes, sweet soda, a milkshake....
Come on guys! You produce more food than you can eat yourself! You are the inventors of FAST FOOD. "Super-Size-Me" is an American movie for a good reason.
Originally posted by: VigoDid I say that all Americans are ignorant? Now YOU are being ignorant. An ignorant American. See what I mean?
Don't be offended, though! Yes I am very offended now. You insulted me and broke my heart. I mean, I AM SUPPOSED TO BE IGNORANT??? I AM PERFECT!!! Yes, PERRRRFECT. Look at my beauty!
See what I mean?