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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION — Page 24
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I would have gladly donated a few quid, but I am skint. Really skink (that's what moving house does to a bank balance!!)
So be fair man!!
Actually...it's your choice, but it would be nice for everyone to see for themselves.
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Originally posted by: auximenies
Wow. I guess your right. I should have made a case for something that I had no say in and about which I didn't feel strongly one way or the other. And in fact I was the one who was complaining. Thank you for setting me straight!
Wow. I guess your right. I should have made a case for something that I had no say in and about which I didn't feel strongly one way or the other. And in fact I was the one who was complaining. Thank you for setting me straight!
You as much as anyone else has placed judgement left and right, I guess you can dish it out but you just cant take it
So you made a point to reply to my post about the thing you didnt feel stronly one way or another about..... makes perfect sense.
"The Empire can't stop us now..now its our turn" -Luke-
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Originally posted by: GhostAlpha26
So you made a point to reply to my post about the thing you didnt feel stronly one way or another about..... makes perfect sense.
So you made a point to reply to my post about the thing you didnt feel stronly one way or another about..... makes perfect sense.
I knew you'd misunderstand that, but I didn't feel like spelling out everything for you the first go 'round. So here you go. The thing that I don't feel strongly about one way or the other was if Adywan shared the clip with everyone or not. Which is why I didn't post anything such as this:
"Heh. I'm sure glad that none of those people that didn't donate can't access the video clip."
nor this:
"Aw, c'mon Adywan. Please share the clip with everyone."
The thing I DO feel strongly about is respecting a decision by someone who is a "giver". And by respecting I mean not publicly questioning or evaluating the merit of said decision. That was the nature of my original response to your post.
To Adywan and others: Sorry about derailing this thread. I've said my piece. If GA26 gets in the last word, so be it.
Pink Floyd -- First in Space
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Originally posted by: auximenies
I knew you'd misunderstand that, but I didn't feel like spelling out everything for you the first go 'round. So here you go. The thing that I don't feel strongly about one way or the other was if Adywan shared the clip with everyone or not. Which is why I didn't post anything such as this:
"Heh. I'm sure glad that none of those people that didn't donate can't access the video clip."
nor this:
"Aw, c'mon Adywan. Please share the clip with everyone."
Why post anything at all on the subject.
Originally posted by: auximenies
The thing I DO feel strongly about is respecting a decision by someone who is a "giver". And by respecting I mean not publicly questioning or evaluating the merit of said decision. That was the nature of my original response to your post.
I knew you'd misunderstand that, but I didn't feel like spelling out everything for you the first go 'round. So here you go. The thing that I don't feel strongly about one way or the other was if Adywan shared the clip with everyone or not. Which is why I didn't post anything such as this:
"Heh. I'm sure glad that none of those people that didn't donate can't access the video clip."
nor this:
"Aw, c'mon Adywan. Please share the clip with everyone."
Originally posted by: auximenies
You don't see us petitioning Adywan to make the clip available to everyone either, do you?
You don't see us petitioning Adywan to make the clip available to everyone either, do you?
Why post anything at all on the subject.
Originally posted by: auximenies
The thing I DO feel strongly about is respecting a decision by someone who is a "giver". And by respecting I mean not publicly questioning or evaluating the merit of said decision. That was the nature of my original response to your post.
Could have used PM's or not said anything at all
But in discussing the merit of the choice adywan has made publicly with me on this forum that wouldn’t fall into the category of “not publicly questioning or evaluating the merit of said decision.”
Interesting take
"The Empire can't stop us now..now its our turn" -Luke-
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Originally posted by: Sluggo
Adywan, you said you were painting a cover for this? Is there anything you can't do?
Adywan, you said you were painting a cover for this? Is there anything you can't do?
i'll post some sketches soon and i might get everyone to pick which one they like the best to be turned into the finished painting for the cover.Ok, i think its time to get this thread back on track. lol. It looks like the original link is just about to die so heres the 8 minute preview for everyone else now. If you are having problems with rapidshare then it is also being posted into a.b.starwars
8 minute Star Wars Revisited preview
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EDIT: Nevermind, I got it.
WOW!!!! The cantina aliens look AWESOME!! WHY hasn't Lucas does this yet?
Well, whatever, I guess it'll just be all the more sweeter when I can see this thing in its entirety.
Maybe one suggestion, adywan, and that is to make Greedo blink once or twice more. That's it. And maybe see if you can have Muftak blink. THAT would be cool. Everything else is just perfect.
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I think we're going to have our own ultimate 2007 anniversary set....
Disc 1: Building Empire
Disc 2: Returning to Jedi
Disc 3: The Story of Star Wars
Disc 4: The Story of the Empire Strikes Back
Disc 5: Star Wars: EP IV Adywan Edition
Disc 6: Star Wars: The X0T Edition
Sorry to any other projects but this is my Ultimate Anniversary Set......I fucking can't wait.......
Nicely done Adywan, nicely done....
I love everybody. Lets all smoke some reefer and chill. Hug and kisses for everybody.
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Originally posted by: vbangle
You know what?
I think we're going to have our own ultimate 2007 anniversary set....
Disc 1: Building Empire
Disc 2: Returning to Jedi
Disc 3: The Story of Star Wars
Disc 4: The Story of the Empire Strikes Back
Disc 5: Star Wars: EP IV Adywan Edition
Disc 6: Star Wars: The X0T Edition
Sorry to any other projects but this is my Ultimate Anniversary Set......I fucking can't wait.......
Nicely done Adywan, nicely done....
You know what?
I think we're going to have our own ultimate 2007 anniversary set....
Disc 1: Building Empire
Disc 2: Returning to Jedi
Disc 3: The Story of Star Wars
Disc 4: The Story of the Empire Strikes Back
Disc 5: Star Wars: EP IV Adywan Edition
Disc 6: Star Wars: The X0T Edition
Sorry to any other projects but this is my Ultimate Anniversary Set......I fucking can't wait.......
Nicely done Adywan, nicely done....
Thats the best idea ever, nothing could top that seriously (well maybe Darth Editous versions included too
) "The Empire can't stop us now..now its our turn" -Luke-
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Originally posted by: GhostAlpha26
Thats the best idea ever, nothing could top that seriously (well maybe Darth Editous versions included too )
Thats the best idea ever, nothing could top that seriously (well maybe Darth Editous versions included too
) Yeah, I thought about the DE editions, but I thought it would be more of a realistic fantasy of mine if I kept the set to six discs,LOL. Although I do have the DEs in my collection already, and they are nice.....
I love everybody. Lets all smoke some reefer and chill. Hug and kisses for everybody.
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Originally posted by: vbangle
Yeah, I thought about the DE editions, but I thought it would be more of a realistic fantasy of mine if I kept the set to six discs,LOL. Although I do have the DEs in my collection already, and they are nice.....
Yeah, I thought about the DE editions, but I thought it would be more of a realistic fantasy of mine if I kept the set to six discs,LOL. Although I do have the DEs in my collection already, and they are nice.....
I see what you’re saying, but after watching Building Empire & Returning to Jedi you know you’ll be in the mood to watch all 3 then, "It is unavoidable”
So 8 discs may have to be in order 
"The Empire can't stop us now..now its our turn" -Luke-
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haven't read thru all the suggestions yet
nor seen any other fan edits - so sorry if i'm repeating
but it's always bugged me that the escape from tatooine is so simple
han says "i know a few manouveres, we'll lose them"
then flies in a dead straight line.
would be cool if the falcon could at least jink a bit
or better still add in some real twists and turns like the escape from hoth
if you can find good enough source material.
also are you doing anything to the jabba scene
they could maybe have got away with the dvd version of that
if they hadn't put him in the prequel trilogy - his weight yo-yo's like oprah at the moment.
can't wait to see the finished product - and if lucas doesn't offer you a job after this
the live action tv series can only be the poorer for it
cheers
professa
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P.S. Adywan, thank you sooooo much for getting the clip up on rapidshare!
P.S.S. Just watched the clip and it is absolutely amazing. The facial effects in the new cantina scene gives alot of life to the inhabitants. Keep up the amazing work, Adywan.
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"Miss you, I will, Original Trilogy..."
"Your midichlorians are weak, Old man." -Darth Vader 2007 super deluxe extra special dipped in chocolate sauce edition.
http://prequelsstink.ytmnd.com/
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I cannot wait for this edit to be done so it can properly replace my 2004 DVD.
Keep it up sir!!!
"There's a reason why you were almost arrested for giving out those cards"
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First off, I want to say that while I'm not a SW fan, I'm really impressed with what you're doing with this film. I really like the idea of improving issues with the film relating to the SFX limitations that existed when the film was made, as opposed to Lucas' interest in throwing as much random CGI crap as possible. Nice work.
And I would like to share a few observations I made, looking over this preview you've made available to us:
1) I really like the idea of the view through new binoculars, as the old ones bugged me a bit. However, the effect as it is now is kinda funky. The speed as which Luke scans over the surrounding area is way too fast, as everything sort of blurs by. Also, the movement far too smooth. It's like the binoculars are mounted on a tripod, and they're being rotated automatically. When we see Luke, he's turning at an inconsistent rate, rapidly at first, then slowing down, and he sort of bobs up and down. You've corrected a lot of issues where the motions of one shot don't correlate to another shot, so it wouldn't make sense to introduce an effect that CREATES this problem, ya know? I'd say either slow it way down, and make it more inconsistent (maybe taking advantage of existing footage as well, so that the features we see don't look so smooth and undetailed--it appears you created this effect yourself, and it sticks out), or throw out the effect altogether. I really like the idea, but if it ultimately feels like a video game shot, then toss it, as it'll jerk people out of the experience.
2) I do wanna say, I really like the torture droid. I especially like the detail that not only do we see the irregular quality of the blue electric arc, but you can see the flickering glow on the mechanical arm immediately behind it. I really like the subtlety there. My only thing with the shot has nothing to do with you--as it approaches, we see it wobbling around. Is there anything you can do about that? I really like the shot, but it weakens the menace of the thing if it wobbles and bounces around like that.
3) Mos Eisley
In that first shot of the speeder, where it's going up the hill, did you do the camera effect where it bounces up and down as the speeder comes into the shot? If so, very nice work.
Only thing I don't like about the shot are the little things running around on the right side (I assume those are Lucas' work). They just don't mesh into the scene well. An alternative would be to remove those, using a matte to fill in that part of the shot, and cut a bit off the beginning of that shot, so we only see that scene for a second before the speeder passes over, so we're not looking at this still shot for an overly long period of time, and we don't have the issue with these little rodent things looking odd in the shot. Just an idea.
4) Okay, I really, really love what you're doing with the Cantina. It's insane that in the only scene where you really get a sense of the variety of species that exist in SW, all of these individuals are so dead looking. So what you're doing is absolutely necessary. However, I feel that the effects you're using need to be refined or scaled back a bit, but in other areas, perhaps used a bit more. To go into more detail--
*In the first shot, we see the triangular headed alien looking around. It's sort of a dark shot, but it looks like you make his eyelids and eyebrows (for lack of a better word) moving around a bit. I like it, but in a way, the shot feels dead to me. It's his eyes. We have this close shot of his eyes, and you can tell they're just these gold things. I know it'd be a major pain in the ass, but could you give him animated eyes of some sort? It'd be a nightmare just to track them against the movement of his face, but it's sort of strange to have this opening shot where we have this extreme closeup of an alien, and he looks like a muppet. He needs eyes! Also, the wolf guy's glowing eyes in the background are odd. It's obvious that they're LEDs or something similar. If they could be dimmed down so it looks like they're reflecting light, as opposed to being lightbulbs, I think he'd be a cool looking, ominous character.
*Next shot, we see the four-eyed alien scratching his chin and proboscis. It'd be kinda cool to have maybe one of his lower eyes close just a bit, to give a sense of the pleasure of scratching the itch (like a dog narrowing his eyes when you scratch his head). He's got this super stiff face that doesn't loan itself to any sort of movement, but the eyes are a way of showing some life in his face.
*Next shot is of the two guys with their heads together, laughing or something. It seems like there's too much movement in their faces. The eyes of the guy on the left open and close and open and close, and his face feels rather elastic. Could the movement be scaled back a bit?
*I really dislike the shot of the lizard looking guy with the red hat. It sticks out like a sore thumb, because it's obvious he's CGI, and he's just sort of sitting there by itself. It feels like he's removed from the action. If it were me, I'd actually drop this shot.
*Little later on (around 6:02) there's a shot of the really tall alien with the big mouth talking to a small human on the right. The alien's face mouth moves a bit too much. Maybe it's just the bit where he smiles...it kinda throws off the speech movements of his mouth. Without that momentary smile, I think it'd look more natural. There's another quick shot of him, where we see his mouth moving later on, as he's turning away, that also feels odd. It just seems to me he has this sort of canine looking face, but his face is stiffer looking, crocodilian. Right now, his face feels like it's moving too much. Too elastic. If it could be toned down, I think it'd feel more natural.
*The shot with the elephant dude is weird. He's a '90s Lucas CGI add in, right? Again, I feel like the shot is out of place, and I'd lose it.
*I really like the way the slug blinks. It's kinda involved, but for some reason, I really like it. It's the sort of sleepy, slothful movement I'd expect.
*Right after Luke gets shoved, where we see the eyes of the red-eyed alien narrows--I really like that. Maybe the mouth is a little too animated, but I really like it.
*The Han-Greedo scene is genius. There's a lot of movement in Greedo's face, but it feels right. We've been teased with the strange movements of these aliens, and this feels like a payoff, where we see one of them really animated alive. I like it. I think you could lose the little forehead movement when he talks, though. His forehead is way too animated. He's got this big ear things, and they move nicely and really reinforce what he's saying (sort of like an Italian with their hands). So to have his forehead moving as well, while he's talking, feels like overkill. To have a forehead movement as a momentary, silent reaction (such as being surprised at something) would work, but when he's talking...eh, too much. Also, I noticed something interesting with the blinking. If you look at Han, he doesn't blink much during the scene--his shots are timed so that he's blinking just as his shots begin. So to have Greedo's blinking come smack in the middle of his shots, especially when he has such big obvious eyes is sort of going against that, plus he blinks in every shot, which again, might be overkill. Maybe look at the timing of this? Or maybe change it up, with a double-blink at one point (Han does this in this scene, at one point). Have his eyelids close most of the way, quickly open a bit, then a full blink. Some sort of interesting inflection. I do like the ear movement though. It's kinda reminiscent of the Andorians on Enterprise, where their antennae move around a bit, and reflect their mood. Interesting.
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Anyways, I do really understand that you've already done a hell of a lot of work on this film, and you've done a really nice job. I just think that operating on a more detailed and subtle level would yield some really fascinating and interesting stuff, if you played around with it a bit, especially with the aliens in the cantina. Try some different little details...maybe eyelids that blind sideways, rather than like human eyelids. Or rather than two eyelids that meet in the middle of the eye, a single lid that moves all the way across the eye. And really look at their faces, and think how they're faces should move. Some of them have really stiff faces, they shouldn't have much movement. Others have much softer looking, elastic faces. Look at how peoples' faces move when they talk, how they move when they're surprised, angry, etc, and translate that into these aliens. Maybe look at some really convincing CGI and puppet characters from various movies (E.T., Jurassic Park, Predator, whatever...), find the characters that really feel alive, and look at how their faces move, how the movements are adapted to their physical features.
I think taking the time to really map this stuff out could pay off in the other movies (such as the scenes in Jabba's Palace in Jedi, etc.
But even if you ignored every single damn thing I've said, I'll still be excited as hell to see how all this turns out. It looks fantastic. The above is simply the rantings of a detail whore of epic proportions.
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It is a Huge work, the sequences of the cantina and DS are really good, what have you decided for the greedo shots, a bonus without subtitles? the edit will be PALE or NTSC? With your edition, mine will be at the top 
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But thanks for posting the new trailer! AMAZING STUFF!!!
You're probably tired of hearing it, but the cantina is freaking awesome! Greedo is now emoting!
I can't believe it!This is just making me more excited...not only about this release, but once you get to ROTJ! This will do wonders for the ewoks!
The battle droid is a great touch...the pink sky is gone!...3PO coming up the stairs...brilliant! Jump cut is much better! DS looking good...torture droid is fun...honestly, too many things to mention!
I will throw a couple of thoughts your way:
-Mos Eisley...In that first shot of the speeder...I would try and play with that shot a little more like tweaker said, but I would also try and play with the colors some more...it looks like there's too much red in the picture...
-the first alien you see in the cantina...I noticed you did manipulate his expressions a bit...but I would put in an eyeblink too. A couple more eye blinks on some of the other aliens (like the Greedo blink) would be nice...*I* think (like the mouse).
Again, I love what's happening with this scene! Walrus man...his squinty look at Luke is great! And the duros (or whatever they're called) look awesome in their closeup!
Attack of the Clones: Alternate Timeline Edit Thread:
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/SSWRs-Attack-of-the-Clones-Alternate-Timeline-Edit/id/66888
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*I really dislike the shot of the lizard looking guy with the red hat. It sticks out like a sore thumb, because it's obvious he's CGI, and he's just sort of sitting there by itself. It feels like he's removed from the action. If it were me, I'd actually drop this shot.
This was a SE addition that replaced the Wolfman, and as far as I know it is an actual costume. I never really cared for it either, until Adywan showed him "swallowing" his drink, giving him some much needed additional facial expression.
*The shot with the elephant dude is weird. He's a '90s Lucas CGI add in, right? Again, I feel like the shot is out of place, and I'd lose it.
This was a SE addition that replaced the Wolfman, and as far as I know it is an actual costume. I never really cared for it either, until Adywan showed him "swallowing" his drink, giving him some much needed additional facial expression.
*The shot with the elephant dude is weird. He's a '90s Lucas CGI add in, right? Again, I feel like the shot is out of place, and I'd lose it.
This is another Wolfman replacement. Lucas really hated that guy apparently.
Again I think he was a actual costume, not CGI. Not that I have a preference either way, but is it out of the question to insert the Wolfman back in?But overall tweaker, I do agree that some of the aliens have a little TOO much movement, and their faces end up looking warped and elastic. I don't know if Adywan would be willign to go back and change some of this. If so, great. If not, it's still light years better than the original static masks.
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I think the furry alien with horns (don't know his name) in the shot right after Muftak looks a little bit strange and could be improved.
Other than that, excellent! The shot with the Star Destroyer approaching the Death Star is awesome!
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I'd vote to not to change anything about the cantina, I think it works great.