Originally posted by: Obi JeewhyenBut her Star Wars lines were all comedy, and her Empire lines were not. She may have been ungrateful for the rescue, but the complaining lines were jokes ... and they got laughs.
That's what I meant by the tonedeafness of the writers. 40's wiseguy banter may be nasty, but it's very funny. The same nastiness without the talent of comedic writing is just ... well, just nasty.
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That's what I meant by the tonedeafness of the writers. 40's wiseguy banter may be nasty, but it's very funny. The same nastiness without the talent of comedic writing is just ... well, just nasty.
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See the clever thing about how Leia is in the first hour of ESB, is the reason she is bitchy is that she is in love with Han as the movies begins. But she either doesn't want to admit it, or doesn't want to give in to loving this scoundrel, cause that would go against her 'princess' upbringing.
She does the classic thing when you really like someone of the opposite sex and don't want to admit, you try to go out of your way to make the person think you don't like them. But even though Han is not a scolar like many of the Jedi, he is street smart and plays her like a fiddle the whole movie. He knows as soon as he tries to leave Hoth and she follows him at the starting, she loves him, so he leads her right down the road of telling him first. The whole movie is just a tease between the two and when she finally says she loves him what does he say? As Kevin Smith said in an interview once on why he loves ESB: "Like a pimp, he says, "I know."
ESB had to have the characters much different then SW because this was delving into how they feel about each other, rather then how to beat the Empire. SW is just about the big 3 getting kinda stuck with each other in the movie and beating the empire, and really don't have time to assess their personal relationships with anyone. ESB is really about the characters, not the story, and how they are reacting to the situation. ESB delves into each character and shows their true nature.
I think one compliments the other to perfection, and if Lucas could have continued this trend in ROTJ, it would be one awesome trilogy. ROTJ took all that was set up, with the characters, and threw them away on one plot point: Vaders redemption. You could see that is the only plot point Lucas cared about, cause that is the only great part of the movie, the rest of the movie is just the actors, the director, and our creator going through the motions and not trying to make a great movie, but the first time in SW-ville, settling for something just good enough.