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Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic - THE MOVIE - Finally finished — Page 2

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Either way I'm dling it now, will seed for long as possible when finished.
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I had wanted to post this to Demonoid as well as TPB because not everyone here has a membership at the 'noid. I don't know a whole a lot about what I'm doing though and when I tried to upload the torrent I had already made for TPB, it didn't work. I couldn't figure it out so I just deleted it. So what you saw was true, from a certain point of view.

When I finish getting this uploaded and people are able to download it themselves, I would love to see this thing torrented on other sites. It would also be great if someone could convert the DVD into an Xvid or something. I know not everybody wants to download a whole DVD or has the bandwidth to do it.

Thanks guys.
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Hey everyone!

Just wanted to make it official - that the non-profit DVD is done and as you can see, it's available for all to enjoy! Wanted to say thanks for being patient around here and I hope everyone will enjoy the movie. A few things of note:

You can really see the 'learning process' - it was truly a two year journey to finish this thing... you'll notice through the beginning - XP numbers do show and some of the camera angles are more static... around the 15 minute mark, I discovered the 'free camera' trick, about the 1 hour mark, I figured out how to turn off the XP numbers. And around the 1 hour, 15 minute mark, through the last 45 minutes, you can see I really use all the tricks of the KOTOR system, including dynamic camera angles on LOGAN'S battles too - all of which shows I was learning as I was going along. I'm very very happy with the last 45 minutes and I feel that will be the staple of quality to come with the sequels ahead.

You'll see as well I went back and used these tricks on the opening Endar Spire sequence - I needed the opening to be solid to grab the attention of the viewer. I'm very proud of this movie, and look forward to eventually starting on the second one, which WILL BE COMPLETED by the end of 2007 - hopefully around Summer!

Take care everyone and I look forward to hearing your 'viewing stories' - I hope everyone gets some enjoyment out of this movie - old and new KOTOR fans alike! And thanks to Rebel_1138 and his help with the technical side of things regarding its release. You rule!

~Kaydon
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Whew, for a minute I thought you were going to say episode 2 will be ready in another two years.

Dr. M

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A *few* more things -

Make sure your DVD player is in 16:9 mode - it'll then look normal with the best resolution. For those with projectors, the subtitles appear just above the bottom bar, and dipping slightly below it (if there's two lines needed) so don't zoom in all the way past the black bars - otherwise you won't follow any of the alien languages!

Had a nice viewing of the final product on my friend's projection screen (an entire wall) with a good sound system. All in all I'm happy with it, visually. However some parts of the soundtrack (dialogue/sound effects/music) peak and dip in parts. Not consistent I guess you can say - and that also comes from taking too long to finish it, a few "several month breaks" I think led to this. I can't really go back to fix these problems, since hard drive space issues forced me to finalize entire sequences as movie files, but rest assured the audio consistency will be a number 1 priority when doing Episode II!

And that's about it! Thanks for reading, I look forward to your comments once you've viewed the movie...

~Kaydon
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Originally posted by: PreludeRM
Is it possible for somebody to seed this at thepirate bay. It seems everybody is stuck at 90.4%


Agreed.
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I'm surprised that no one has been able to finsh d/l this as I've been devoting all of my bandwidth to this for the last four days. I had to do some maitenance on the computer tonight that required me taking it offline. Sorry about the interruption in seeding. It's back up now and once again hogging all the bandwidth. It will be nice when I'll be abke to share the seeding responsibilities with others.

I hope the rest of the download goes quickly for all of you.
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Make sure your torrent software has "SuperSeed" enabled. It maximizes the first seeding (so you need to upload the least).

Dr. M

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I thought I'd be the first to post a full review of this amazing project.

WARNING: A couple of spoilers ahead (not much of anything really, but for those of you who care)














An even longer time ago, in a galaxy far, far away...

Knights of the Old Republic - Episode I is an amazing piece of work. Kaydon Sentry sorted through the many story-lines of KOTOR and removed much unnecessary exposition to get to the heart of the story. There are things that I miss from the game that don't appear on this DVD, but when a 50+ hour game is adapted into a two hour movie, certain things are bound to be cut. Of course, this is only the first in a planned trilogy of movies based on this fantastic game; there is no guarantee that story-lines that are absent in the first movie may not show up in a later installment. Either way, Kaydon has done an impressive job of forming the first act in what should be a most enjoyable trilogy.

Technical Flaws:

All the small things…

There are a few things that detract from this presentation living up to its full potential. A few of them are things that Kaydon has already told you about. It seems that the aspect ratio is off on this DVD. I only have a 4:3 TV, but I had to set my DVD player to 16:9 display to watch this as letter-boxed. Just a minor annoyance really, but something to keep in mind if the screen looks squashed when you go to watch it.

There are also times during the film that the character voices are drowned out by the music/fx. This is more noticeable on a standard TV set with regular TV speakers. The flaw is still noticeable when listened to through a 5.1 sound system, but the effect seems less pronounced.

There are some color inconsistencies and the like, but to go into depth about them would be like making mountain out of a mole hill. Overall, the list of flaws is quite minor in relation to the stunning work put into this project.

Things I thought could be better:

The show must go on...

Even understanding that the movie will feel somewhat rushed due to time constraints not present while playing the game, it still seemed to move too fast in several places. When I first watched it, I had the feeling that Kaydon may have been trying to make a film-noir like story out of KOTOR. The way that he goes about his search--jumping from person to person sort of like a private-eye looking for information--I could have seen this being a 1940s crime-thriller set in space. All Logan needed was some extra monologue time. It depends on what you’re trying to achieve I suppose. The pacing is not what I would consider ideal, but it seems to get the point across well enough, and in the end that is what really matters.

Dead men tell no tales...

As the story unfolds, there are times when Logan makes reference to events or information that beg the question of how he came to know what he knows. Perhaps there were scenes cut that would help fill these gaps in the story. It is always a fine line between just how much the audience needs to be told, and how much the audience can be left to fill in on their own. The problem I have with these "gaps" is that if the main character is being dubbed, why not dub some other extraneous characters to give the audience some of the information that we're missing? There were a few scenes that dubbing or adding some extra subtitles to would have really helped explain away some of the questions that I had.

Is this thing on?

In a couple of places the new piece of music seemed to stand out a bit in relation to the context of the whole scene. A good example is in the Under City Cantina while Logan is talking to Mission. This cheery, upbeat music comes in right after Mission and her wookie pal star down a couple of thugs and plays out during her conversation with Logan. As Logan starts talking about Davick however, the music is still the same cheery, upbeat song it's been, and then shifts to a dark foreboding piece. The two don't flow well together. The cheery music just seems very out of place for the environment they're in, not to mention the situation. I understand that Kaydon was using to give this feeling of happiness at new friends/alliances being made, but I think it actually takes you out of the moment, rather than pulling you into it.

The only other thing I thought possibly could have been better is the application of filters Kaydon used on the character’s voices in a few scenes. There are only two instances on the effect that I can think of off-hand, and I only have a gripe about the first one. When the gang goes to see the Hidden Beks there are filters applied to all of the characters voices. The effect is meant to make it sound more realistic by making them echo in the big empty space that they find themselves in. To me, the filter seems too pronounced in this scene and again when they go back there. However, a more subtle instance of the filter is also used while the group is in the Sewers. Unlike before, I think it really helped sell the idea that characters were in such a dank, dark, dismal place.

The good stuff:

Fortune favors the bold...

I hope my personal gripes don’t give the impression that I am anything but impressed by Kaydon_Sentry’s amazing project. Having been watching and waiting for this DVD since Kaydon first announced it, I can only say that the wait was well worth it. If this first episode is an indication of what is to come, I only hope that it doesn’t take another two years to see the next installment.

Directing is a tricky business. Getting the kind of shots that a director wants is very difficult, especially in a video game where you’re options are very limited. There are only so many ways to exploit the in-game camera. Well, Kaydon has gone above and beyond what I thought was achievable by acquiring many various angles, pans, zooms, etc. to reflect not only the mood of a scene, but a characters reaction to a conversation or event. He also manages to get the camera to skim right over the ground. Many of the shots in this movie make me wonder how he got them.

Kaydon said before that one of the main reasons he started this project was to teach himself editing. I can definitively say that it was a lesson well learned. Whether it is for length reasons, or the quality of a performance, you can never show everything you’d like nor have the characters say everything you want them to say in a movie. This is movie is no exception. There are some scenes that look like they could have been trimmed a bit more or other scenes that could have benefited from a couple of extra seconds in my opinion, but overall the editing is sound. The juxtaposition of most scenes was simply genius. Kaydon has done an excellent job of stripping away what doesn't work and rearranging scenes to tell the story more quickly without sacrificing the strength of it.

The goodies:

Rain drops on Roses...

All of the Star Wars films are heavily laden with music and the new pieces Kaydon has inserted help really sell this as a new addition to the Star Wars mythos. A lot of new music has been added to this to give it more of a Star Wars feel and the feel of being an actual film. Kaydon excels at picking specific mood music to help tell this story.
One of my favorite scenes of new music is during the escape from Taris. I believe this piece of music came from Starship Troopers, but it fits very well in the scene.

Kaydon has also added a few new effects that look great. His voice-work is incredible. I've never heard someone dub a character in a fan-film of any sort that sounds as good as this. Lightsabers and footage from a few different games that have been added and rotoscoped in are just some of the things that separate this from any other fan-film project. Kaydon also has included a few details that may or may not hint at a future project. Time will tell.

Good night and good luck...
Kaydon Sentry has made something that will stand out from other projects. What started as a labor of love has become something that we would all be lucky to be see.

Cheers Kaydon.

- Rebel11_38
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Thanks so much for that awesome review Rebel11_38. It gives those that are still downloading so much more anticipation to watching this fan film. And to you Kaydon_Sentry, can't wait to see your work. I've no doubt I'm really going to enjoy this.
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First ten minutes posted!

For those who can't do the whole 4 gig type deal, or for those impatient... here is the first ten minutes of the movie - labeled "part 1" on YouTube... subsequent parts will follow periodically, more like a tv show I guess... though I always will recommend the DVD over youtube... but here it is! Enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RmsyoYPz7E

~Kaydon

Awesome review Rebel - thanks again for your support, and I'll definitely be utilizing your suggestions and advice when I get to the next one... we'll be in touch!
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I finally got this! Any chance on a cover project by someone?
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I played, beat and enjoyed both KOTOR games.

This DVD looks as though it will be a great thing to pop in and show people that are too lazy to play what they have been missing.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/bgiffen/bigbluerig.jpg
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First ten minutes posted!

For those who can't do the whole 4 gig type deal, or for those impatient... here is the first ten minutes of the movie - labeled "part 1" on YouTube... subsequent parts will follow periodically, more like a tv show I guess... though I always will recommend the DVD over youtube... but here it is! Enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RmsyoYPz7E

~Kaydon


I'd really rather see an Xvid torrent...

Dr. M

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Originally posted by: BigBlueRig
I played, beat and enjoyed both KOTOR games.

This DVD looks as though it will be a great thing to pop in and show people that are too lazy to play what they have been missing.


I'm actually planning to buy it.
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Well, d/led, seeded (for awhile - I have limited bandwidth with my provider) and finished watching it. Really enjoyable. His voice work is great and adds some subtle humor here and there. Rebel_1138's review is spot on, so I'd read that. As to a cover for this, I'll see if there's any material about to use.
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Originally posted by: kaine23
Originally posted by: BigBlueRig
I played, beat and enjoyed both KOTOR games.

This DVD looks as though it will be a great thing to pop in and show people that are too lazy to play what they have been missing.


I'm actually planning to buy it.


You wont be dissapointed
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It's a good game, no two ways about it. But if you aren't a role playing game fan, you might be disappointed.

Dr. M

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So far I found the orginal poster art but it had all the orginal pc box, rating and original lucas arts logos on it. I've been spending some time cloning out everything, added the new lucas arts logo and have to fix the yellow saber as it was too short. Does it look blended in or no?

UPDATE!

Fixed what was needed (thanks Twister) and just have to consider what to do with the back. Shoul the front slogan stay? Not sure about that one.

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Cool, I wondered if this would become a finished project when I saw it on youtube.
Originally posted by: casualimp
Well, d/led, seeded (for awhile - I have limited bandwidth with my provider) and finished watching it. Really enjoyable. His voice work is great and adds some subtle humor here and there. Rebel_1138's review is spot on, so I'd read that. As to a cover for this, I'll see if there's any material about to use.


Your making a cover? *dusts off image finding skills*

KOTOR I and, II concept art

http://www.gamebanshee.com/screenshots/starwarskotorii/conceptart/screenshotXX.jpg

change the XX to a number 1 - 24.

http://www.gamebanshee.com/screenshots/starwarskotor/conceptart/screenshotXX.jpg

change the XX to a number 1 - 51

KOTOR Poster with the Lucasarts logo out of the way

Some KOTOR wallpapers
Close up of the poster
KOTOR poster without the KOTOR logo
Some more concept art at this page
A poster

That should be enough for a Cover I think.

http://twister111.tumblr.com
Previous Signature preservation link

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Thanks for the help Twister, I found some resources I'm sure to use. Now, I've decided to make this a 3 disc case to house the inevitable parts 2 & 3. I'm just curious as to what to add to the back. Kaydon, I don't suppose you have a synopsis for the whole trilogy kicking about? Here's a preview.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/casualimp/KOTOR-Episode-I.jpg
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It may be asking a lot, but perhaps in addition to the 3-disc cover, you could make 3 separate covers.

At the very least, it would give you an excuse to use a lot of the kickass art out there for it.
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Thought you (casualimp) should know that it only exists 2 episodes and a third is yet to be announced, so you should think about making it a 2 disc version instead.
  • do or do not, there is no try -
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Ignore my post above i understand now that the movie will be split into 3 discs.

  • do or do not, there is no try -