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Info: Fantasia 16mm - for sale on Ebay

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This print might have the uncensored scenes in it. Would it be too far gone to color correct?

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Where were you in '77?

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Eh, for the price it's worth buying. Maybe whoever you pay big bucks to convert it to a digital video format can retime to make it less pink.
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Maybe we should ask him then all chip in some money to buy it if he says yes.
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If it's a print made after 1968, it would likely be the cut version. It's not like that 16mm print that was confirmed to have the uncensored 30 seconds.
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How was it censored over the years? Was the scene simply cut in 1968, then reinstated but zoomed in to crop out the "offensive" part in 1990? And was the dvd uncropped but digitally redrawn to not have the servant creatures be dark? Correct me if I'm wrong.

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As far as my laserdisc copy goes, they mostly zoomed in on certain scenes to remove the black centaurette. (The affected shots are super grainy as a result.) The uncut scenes can be seen here.
Since the maker of the print, Derann, is based in the UK, I was getting my hopes up since Disney hasn't exactly kept Song of the South buried over there.
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According to the version notes on the Fantasia Legacy DVD, the 1968 re-issue simply spliced out the offending shots! The 1982 version (with a new soundtrack recording) also cut out the portions, but the soundtrack was properly mixed to keep jumps from happening. The 1991 restoration (of the 1947 theatrical cut) zoomed in and cropped. The 2000 Roadshow version DVD again zooms and digitally removes characters (one shot only... the rest are awful quality zooms).

It's funny since the version notes have NO mention of the 2000 DVD being censored!
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I was thinking if the dvd only recolored the scenes, it would be possible for someone to color them back. Epier, an auction site like eBay had someone selling a Asian video cd of Fantasia, claiming it was uncensored. Was he correct?

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Someone has to have an uncensored version, as in another thread, OCP linked to a site that had film clips of those scenes. They had a TV station watermark in the lower right corner (it looked like that of some sort of foreign station), so somewhere, there is an uncensored broadcast tape running around.
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If that's the case, I'd like to take a crack at it. Most VCD-type artifacts can easily be removed and the image should remain very sharp even after upsizing to DVD resolution.