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maurice2029
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Terminator 3 T-HOPE Edition (Released)
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Date created
14-Nov-2006, 1:28 PM
Originally posted by: Doctor M
TYPICALLY the best way to convert PAL to NTSC is slowing the video down to 23.976 and using pulldown flags to 29.97. (The audio must be slowed down as well).

The problem is NTSC DVDs take up more space on a DVD (4% more). If you are near the limit of the DVD's capacity it may not fit.
Also, there is currently no automated software to do a complete DVD for you, only the movie (and quality will be questionable).

An important question is, is there speed up in the audio or did they pitch shift it?
If they pitch shifted it, when you slow the audio to match the video you will butch everyone up.

If you want to build the full DVD using your raw menus and converting to NTSC, doing it all manually is still your best way to go for the movie as well.

Don't be fooled by the few saying "I have a PAL player", PAL DVD players are damn hard to lay your hands on in the U.S.
Short of playing on a PC those of us over here will have difficulty watching your edit.

The steps:
Encode video with frame rate of 23.976 at 720x480.
Apply 23.976 -> 29.97 pulldown using DGPulldown.
Re-encode audio in BeSweet using the 25 -> 23,976 conversion option. (Assuming the audio was sped up and not shifted, this will bring the pitch back to it's original)
Rebuild the DVD.

You will need to do this for all video and audio content and re-author the DVD. You will not have sync problems doing this, I guarantee.



On another note, I'm curious if you've seen ADM's T3 edit and if that will influence any of your work.

Boon23 once adviced me to use DGpulldown and change the framerate from 25 to 29.97 by implanting invisible half frames. But I'm not sure if he meant that I should use before creating the movie or afterwards. Anyway, I will try it out for the NTSC conversation. First I have to publish the PAL release.

About ADM's T3 edit, yes I have seen it. It was once of the first fanedits that I saw after the Phantom Edit (since I'm a big Terminator fan, I collect every Terminator fanedit that I can find). Actually, it was ADM's fanedit that inspired me to do my own edit. I give him proprs for editing some scenes, but somehow I felt I could better... meaning, removing things that he surprisingly didn't remove, like the Elton John glasses and Talk To The Hand. So I wrote down my list of changes (about 2 pages), and this is the result. Also, I thought the story of the lieutenants should be in it, since otherwise it would have the feeling "send back ANOTHER Terminator in ANOTHER attempt to kill John Connor." With the lieutenants plot intact, it's not this feeling. More like "since they couldn't find John Connor, they try to take out his army." At least not ANOTHER attempt to strike at John. So that's why my fanedit is still a lot different than ADM's.


About:
"Re-encode audio in BeSweet using the 25 -> 23,976 conversion option. (Assuming the audio was sped up and not shifted, this will bring the pitch back to it's original)"
I have AC3 (5.1 surround) sound for my movie. Can I re-encode this at once with BeSweet?