Originally posted by: Erikstormtrooper
I vote for 12B. It has the feel of the ESB logo while being different enough to not be a copy. And this may sound dorky (relatively speaking
), but I like the way the top bar of the S in "Shroud" covers the word (like a shroud, get it?). If I can get a hi-res version, I can take a crack of some of these posters. Well, it looks like v12 (or rather the eventual perfected #12) will become the 'official' logo as it was Trooperman's idea and choice. I will provide hi-res versions some time soon to those who want to make covers/posters, etc. However, I want to finalize them first.
I agree with THX 100%.
Well 11B is probably the definitive version of my design. I will do versions of covers with that logo and whatnot. As for things that haven't been experimented with: you're right about the 'outline' bounding box but I've yet to make the middle-bar of the "E" the same length as the other two bars. However, I have attempted to perfect #12 to give Trooperman a high-quality version of his design. I think this #13 that I've done looks less "amateur" than #12 because the letters "hroud" and "of the" are closer to normal proportions. So, hopefully it looks better now.I vote for 12B. It has the feel of the ESB logo while being different enough to not be a copy. And this may sound dorky (relatively speaking
), but I like the way the top bar of the S in "Shroud" covers the word (like a shroud, get it?). If I can get a hi-res version, I can take a crack of some of these posters. Well, it looks like v12 (or rather the eventual perfected #12) will become the 'official' logo as it was Trooperman's idea and choice. I will provide hi-res versions some time soon to those who want to make covers/posters, etc. However, I want to finalize them first.Originally posted by: andy_k_250
So, good versions of these are going on the final final disc, right? Well, that's up to Trooperman I guess, however I'm sure between myself and the many talented cover-makers here on the forums, that hi-res logos/posters/covers will be available to download. If Trooperman wants to do a DVD-ROM section on his dual-layer version then we could put them on that.
Originally posted by: THX
To my eyes, 11B is perfect - or at least as good as it can get (the only thing that hasn't been experimented with is making the outer "Star Wars" box outline rather than solid). All the 11s look professional to me, while all the 12s look amateur. I think this is because of the squashed top row. Differently scaled lettering is fine, but you shouldn't mess with the (ahem) aspect ratio. None of the OT logos do, not even the "Faces" ones. Not that they should be used as a reference, IMHO, since they are the SE logos. So 11B is my choice. Ultimately, though, there is only one opinion that counts - Trooperman's.
Originally posted by: Commander CourageSo, good versions of these are going on the final final disc, right? Well, that's up to Trooperman I guess, however I'm sure between myself and the many talented cover-makers here on the forums, that hi-res logos/posters/covers will be available to download. If Trooperman wants to do a DVD-ROM section on his dual-layer version then we could put them on that.
Originally posted by: Rebel11_38
I also think that 12B is the best. As you said though Klokwerk, I think the top bar is too thick. I think the logo would look better if that top bar was narrowed to be the same size as the one on bottom. If you did that, you should also be able to stretch the letters H-R-O-U-D a bit taller to compensate for the reduced thickness of the top line. I think it would make the logo work better overall. Whatever the case - I'm grateful to have you here and love all the logos you've done. Basically, it's a win-win situation since any of yours would be fantastic. When I read this I decided I'd give 12 another go. I made the top bar thinner (but IMHO I think it's still too thick) and I also made the letters (of "hroud" and "of the") closer to normal proportions. It works much better and I'm thankful for the idea. You'll be able to see the result below as logo design #13. Oh! And thanks for the compliments at the end there.
Originally posted by: Trooperman
I really like all of the #12 versions posted except for 12E, because I really like having the top bar come out of the "S". For the "official" logo, I would like two variants - some kind of slanted version, and the straight version (something like 12A). I'd like the straight one to be used as well because it matches with the logos on the "Faces" set that I've gotten used to for over ten years now. The straight logo fits better with the "Faces" logos. Just a thought. But I really like the higher-res #12 logos.
Don't worry, I can provide you with a straight and a slanted version of your design once I'm done. I'm just trying to make it look as good as possible though. The version I did in #12 still isn't good enough. That's why I've done a #13 which you can see below. Hopefully this is better than #12. I think the only thing left to do is to thin the bars out again. Let me know what you think.I also think that 12B is the best. As you said though Klokwerk, I think the top bar is too thick. I think the logo would look better if that top bar was narrowed to be the same size as the one on bottom. If you did that, you should also be able to stretch the letters H-R-O-U-D a bit taller to compensate for the reduced thickness of the top line. I think it would make the logo work better overall. Whatever the case - I'm grateful to have you here and love all the logos you've done. Basically, it's a win-win situation since any of yours would be fantastic. When I read this I decided I'd give 12 another go. I made the top bar thinner (but IMHO I think it's still too thick) and I also made the letters (of "hroud" and "of the") closer to normal proportions. It works much better and I'm thankful for the idea. You'll be able to see the result below as logo design #13. Oh! And thanks for the compliments at the end there.
Originally posted by: MTHaslett
Klokwerk, I appreciate what you're saying and see the problem you're talking about with making the top bar too thin. But I went ahead and mocked it up that way using your '.gif' Realizing the "S" is no longer the same font as everything else, can something like this work? Probably not. It is possible. This gif mock-up of yours and Rebel11_38's advice above prompted me to redo 12 and make it work without being so stretched/squeezed. I still have the bar too thick but apart from that I think the logo #13 is much better than #12.
You mean something like this? Image removed for quote. It's a thought. I hope you don't mind me jumping in like this, Klokwerk.
With the S the same size as the rest of "shroud" it is much easier to keep things in normal proportion. However, then it basically becomes my #11 but with "of the" being the double-line version instead of featuring at the same size of "shroud". I could do a version like that if people really want, but at the moment I just want to finalize Trooperman's version. Plus, so many people liked 10b/11b - do I really need to experiment further? Klokwerk, I appreciate what you're saying and see the problem you're talking about with making the top bar too thin. But I went ahead and mocked it up that way using your '.gif' Realizing the "S" is no longer the same font as everything else, can something like this work? Probably not. It is possible. This gif mock-up of yours and Rebel11_38's advice above prompted me to redo 12 and make it work without being so stretched/squeezed. I still have the bar too thick but apart from that I think the logo #13 is much better than #12.
Originally posted by: Sluggo
It would work if you had the 'S' the same size as the rest of 'hroud' and not the same size as the 'of the dark side'.
Originally posted by: MTHaslettIt would work if you had the 'S' the same size as the rest of 'hroud' and not the same size as the 'of the dark side'.
You mean something like this? Image removed for quote. It's a thought. I hope you don't mind me jumping in like this, Klokwerk.
Originally posted by: Trooperman
I really like all of the #12 versions posted except for 12E, because I really like having the top bar come out of the "S". For the "official" logo, I would like two variants - some kind of slanted version, and the straight version (something like 12A). I'd like the straight one to be used as well because it matches with the logos on the "Faces" set that I've gotten used to for over ten years now. The straight logo fits better with the "Faces" logos. Just a thought. But I really like the higher-res #12 logos.
Originally posted by: THX
To my eyes, 11B is perfect - or at least as good as it can get (the only thing that hasn't been experimented with is making the outer "Star Wars" box outline rather than solid). All the 11s look professional to me, while all the 12s look amateur. I think this is because of the squashed top row. Differently scaled lettering is fine, but you shouldn't mess with the (ahem) aspect ratio. None of the OT logos do, not even the "Faces" ones. Not that they should be used as a reference, IMHO, since they are the SE logos. So 11B is my choice. Ultimately, though, there is only one opinion that counts - Trooperman's.
I agree with THX 100%.
Everyone:
I believe that my 10B/11B will be the definitive version of my design. However, I'm sure I'll end up providing them all or filling requests or whatever. For now, I'm trying to finalize Trooperman's design so that it looks as polished as it can. I believe #13 looks better than #12 but would like your thoughts. I think the compromise in #12 was that "hroud" and "of the" had to be squashed/stretched to make everything fit. That, and the size of the "S" of "Shroud" meant the bar coming out of the "S" was way too thick. The compromise in #13 is that the "S" looks a little funny at the top, however it isn't that bad. I think it is this logo's quirk. I use that word as somebody described every OT logo as having its own quirks - I agree. The "S bar" as I've come to call it is still too thick in this version though, I think. Does everyone agree I should make the bar thinner and then have the bottom bar the same thickness? Here's #13 for you to mull over:
