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Originally posted by: THX
Good idea in principle, but of course BD-R is not full quality.
Good idea in principle, but of course BD-R is not full quality.
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Do you mean that a BD-R isn't large enough to store an uncompressed copy of the film? True, of course but you could get a pretty nice transfer in something like Huffy on a 50Gb disc. But then the discs set you back almost as much as a 200Gb HD anyway
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Originally posted by: DVD-BOY
Do you mean that a BD-R isn't large enough to store an uncompressed copy of the film?
Yes.Do you mean that a BD-R isn't large enough to store an uncompressed copy of the film?
To continue this discussion, go here.
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As far as disk rot and such, naturally one would be expected to make extra backup copies of the disks periodically so that a flawless backup copy is always available, and that those disks would be kept in safe places and handled carefully. And once these disks get into the hands of sizable numbers of Star Wars fans, replacements could be gotten readily, if needed.
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Originally posted by: Dunedain
All movies in HD you buy are compressed, even if you buy a movie at a store that's on a Blu-Ray dual-layer disk (50 gig capacity), it's going to be compressed. So that goes without saying, but it will still look great. The point is to capture the Cinemax HD broadcast of the Star Wars movies in the full quality that they are broadcast at (whatever that is), and then back it up onto Blu-Ray BD-R disks (the best available HD optical disk format). If the Star Wars movies are broadcast on Cinemax at a very high video bit-rate and the movies go over 25 gig in size each, then dual-layer blank BD-R disks will be needed to back them up. But once it's done, the movies will be very safe on those disks.
As far as disk rot and such, naturally one would be expected to make extra backup copies of the disks periodically so that a flawless backup copy is always available, and that those disks would be kept in safe places and handled carefully. And once these disks get into the hands of sizable numbers of Star Wars fans, replacements could be gotten readily, if needed.
All movies in HD you buy are compressed, even if you buy a movie at a store that's on a Blu-Ray dual-layer disk (50 gig capacity), it's going to be compressed. So that goes without saying, but it will still look great. The point is to capture the Cinemax HD broadcast of the Star Wars movies in the full quality that they are broadcast at (whatever that is), and then back it up onto Blu-Ray BD-R disks (the best available HD optical disk format). If the Star Wars movies are broadcast on Cinemax at a very high video bit-rate and the movies go over 25 gig in size each, then dual-layer blank BD-R disks will be needed to back them up. But once it's done, the movies will be very safe on those disks.
As far as disk rot and such, naturally one would be expected to make extra backup copies of the disks periodically so that a flawless backup copy is always available, and that those disks would be kept in safe places and handled carefully. And once these disks get into the hands of sizable numbers of Star Wars fans, replacements could be gotten readily, if needed.
Relax people, High Definition broadcasts of films and television shows are always captured properly. The raw transport stream is easily saved thus in theory making a 100% duplicate of the broadcast. Basically having the file that is sent to your box to play. I would bet my life that all these will be captured by many and will be posted on the newsgroup(although I think the group already had empire and some of the prequels). I don't see how Blu Ray fits into this equation. We don't really have any idea how big the files will be. I can't imagine any will be larger than 25gb or even 15gb. We are not talking LOTR here. You can back up the .ts files on, get this, regular DVDRs and have perfect copies. Or just keep the monsters on your hard drive.
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Originally posted by: netgurucr
Zion, MeBeJedi, and Laserman: Where the fuck is my money? I want it back in my PayPal account asap!
Zion, MeBeJedi, and Laserman: Where the fuck is my money? I want it back in my PayPal account asap!
Seriously, what the hell is a matter with you? Are you a mental retard? Listen dipshit...you DONATED . THERE ARE NO REFUNDS FOR DONATIONS....moron.
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Originally posted by: vbangle
Seriously, what the hell is a matter with you? Are you a mental retard? Listen dipshit...you DONATED . THERE ARE NO REFUNDS FOR DONATIONS....moron.
Originally posted by: netgurucr
Zion, MeBeJedi, and Laserman: Where the fuck is my money? I want it back in my PayPal account asap!
Zion, MeBeJedi, and Laserman: Where the fuck is my money? I want it back in my PayPal account asap!
Seriously, what the hell is a matter with you? Are you a mental retard? Listen dipshit...you DONATED . THERE ARE NO REFUNDS FOR DONATIONS....moron.
Seems like this netgurucr is a troll
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Seriously though, netgurucr, get for real. You donated the money, and if you didn't research the project and understand how long it might take to do the project, that is your own fault. Unless you know a way to do this project quicker, shut up.
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Originally posted by: netgurucr
Zion, MeBeJedi, and Laserman: Where the fuck is my money? I want it back in my PayPal account asap!
Zion, MeBeJedi, and Laserman: Where the fuck is my money? I want it back in my PayPal account asap!
Mods, please ban this douschebag immediately!
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Originally posted by: Dunedain
All movies in HD you buy are compressed, even if you buy a movie at a store that's on a Blu-Ray dual-layer disk (50 gig capacity), it's going to be compressed. So that goes without saying, but it will still look great. The point is to capture the Cinemax HD broadcast of the Star Wars movies in the full quality that they are broadcast at (whatever that is), and then back it up onto Blu-Ray BD-R disks (the best available HD optical disk format). If the Star Wars movies are broadcast on Cinemax at a very high video bit-rate and the movies go over 25 gig in size each, then dual-layer blank BD-R disks will be needed to back them up. But once it's done, the movies will be very safe on those disks.
As far as disk rot and such, naturally one would be expected to make extra backup copies of the disks periodically so that a flawless backup copy is always available, and that those disks would be kept in safe places and handled carefully. And once these disks get into the hands of sizable numbers of Star Wars fans, replacements could be gotten readily, if needed.
All movies in HD you buy are compressed, even if you buy a movie at a store that's on a Blu-Ray dual-layer disk (50 gig capacity), it's going to be compressed. So that goes without saying, but it will still look great. The point is to capture the Cinemax HD broadcast of the Star Wars movies in the full quality that they are broadcast at (whatever that is), and then back it up onto Blu-Ray BD-R disks (the best available HD optical disk format). If the Star Wars movies are broadcast on Cinemax at a very high video bit-rate and the movies go over 25 gig in size each, then dual-layer blank BD-R disks will be needed to back them up. But once it's done, the movies will be very safe on those disks.
As far as disk rot and such, naturally one would be expected to make extra backup copies of the disks periodically so that a flawless backup copy is always available, and that those disks would be kept in safe places and handled carefully. And once these disks get into the hands of sizable numbers of Star Wars fans, replacements could be gotten readily, if needed.
Uh... you guys are far too optimistic.
As noted below, HD movies on cable are of a lower bitrate than movies available on bluray and HD-DVD. Most 1080i transport streams utilize MPEG2 compression, and the average two hour movie is about 8 to 12 gigs (12 is considered good). However, they're starting to use H.264 compression on transport streams, but these tend to be lower in bitrate, as a tradeoff for their more effective compression. They're usually 8 gigs in size.
Looking around, the largest H.264 TS file I've found for a movie of roughly the same length as Star Wars IV is a copy of Spiderman 2 that is 17.1 gigs in size. The largest MPEG2 TS that I can find is a copy of Starship Troopers that is 16.9 gigs.
Oh, and for your amusement, here are some links to caps of Star Wars IV in 1080i, from an German HD broadcast a week or two ago. (H.264 TS, roughly 10 gigs in size):
http://upload.georgeownsme.com/image.php/11498.png
http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/720/swpic1cm8.jpg
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2408/1020225106oj3.jpg
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1153/1020rg9.jpg
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And from SW V, 1080i, H.264 compression, 11 gigs in size:
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http://upload.georgeownsme.com/image.php/12218.png
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Originally posted by: tweaker
http://upload.georgeownsme.com/image.php/11498.png
http://upload.georgeownsme.com/image.php/11498.png
It wasn't until I saw it in that kind of resolution that I realized what an awful makeup job that is.
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Originally posted by: netgurucr
Zion, MeBeJedi, and Laserman: Where is my money? I want it back in my PayPal account asap!
Zion, MeBeJedi, and Laserman: Where is my money? I want it back in my PayPal account asap!
To put it lightly, let's hug it out, bitch.
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Originally posted by: Marvolo
Seriously though, netgurucr, get for real. You donated the money, and if you didn't research the project and understand how long it might take to do the project, that is your own fault. Unless you know a way to do this project quicker, shut up.
Maybe this project would be done alreadySeriously though, netgurucr, get for real. You donated the money, and if you didn't research the project and understand how long it might take to do the project, that is your own fault. Unless you know a way to do this project quicker, shut up.
if they'd bought all that software netgurucr was hawking awhile back
I guess poor sales have put a pinch on netgurucr's pocketbook
However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
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And you never know, since this is a one-time big event, Star Wars in HD for the first time on t.v. in the U.S., maybe Cinemax will go all out on the video bit-rate. =)
The Star Wars trilogy. There can be only one.
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Originally posted by: netgurucr
Zion, MeBeJedi, and Laserman: Where is my money? I want it back in my PayPal account asap!
Zion, MeBeJedi, and Laserman: Where is my money? I want it back in my PayPal account asap!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Seriously, I think this is silly, asking for one's money back from a donation. If there were goods promised (and there weren't), then maybe. But a donation? Forget it.
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Originally posted by: Dunedain
Well, I don't really expect the HD version of Star Wars on Cinemax to have a bit-rate equal to what you would get on a dual-layer Blu-Ray version from Lucasfilm. =) But on the other hand, this may be the only chance to get the Star Wars movies in HD, in 1080i no less (which I think according to Laserman can be easily and flawlessly converted to true 1080p?), before they change even more things in the 30th anniversary set. When they do release the Star Wars trilogy and prequels on Blu-Ray or HD-DVD eventually, they may not give us the choice to watch them without the 30th anniversary changes, just like Lucas has been trying to foist the SE and even-more-SE 2004 changes on us ever since.
And you never know, since this is a one-time big event, Star Wars in HD for the first time on t.v. in the U.S., maybe Cinemax will go all out on the video bit-rate. =)
Well, I don't really expect the HD version of Star Wars on Cinemax to have a bit-rate equal to what you would get on a dual-layer Blu-Ray version from Lucasfilm. =) But on the other hand, this may be the only chance to get the Star Wars movies in HD, in 1080i no less (which I think according to Laserman can be easily and flawlessly converted to true 1080p?), before they change even more things in the 30th anniversary set. When they do release the Star Wars trilogy and prequels on Blu-Ray or HD-DVD eventually, they may not give us the choice to watch them without the 30th anniversary changes, just like Lucas has been trying to foist the SE and even-more-SE 2004 changes on us ever since.
And you never know, since this is a one-time big event, Star Wars in HD for the first time on t.v. in the U.S., maybe Cinemax will go all out on the video bit-rate. =)
All of which is true, but maybe we should start a different thread for it.
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Um...
XØ Project. Can't wait.
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The Star Wars trilogy. There can be only one.