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Info Wanted: James Bond Edits — Page 2
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Where can I get hi-res versions of the NSNA special edition cover?
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Thanks, I've PM'd you.
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He's head and shoulders above that Irish Non-actor that he replaced. He's that wooden that if you throw a stick into the frame it would out-act Brosnan.
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What else has been changed to the movie besides the opening and music? I own the DVD but have never watched it. I just watched the title scenes from the retail DVD a few minutes ago for the first time. In the clip I downloaded, after the titles, it shows a sign on a building. What scene is that from? Is there any scenes MISSING from this edit?
Also, if we were to pretend NSNA was a real Bond film, where would it go? I keep mine between Octopussy and A View to a Kill. Do all of the Bond films with the exception of Casino Royale take place in the order they were released?
Speaking of Casino Royale, someone asked about the TV version in this thread. The whole thing is an extra on FanFiltration's Thunderball edit.
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Originally posted by: Ash595
Anyone has the Living Daylights Workprint, described here ?
Anyone has the Living Daylights Workprint, described here ?
I asked about this a while ago. I'd love to see this version as it sounds very different from the final cut.
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Also, has anyone considered re-editing the old CR into an EON Bond? Since it'd be before DR. NO, it wouldn't really need a title sequence, and the music could sporadic while leading to the Bond theme by the end.
It might be able to re-edit that B/W feature into a prequel to the EON series. What do you say?
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Originally posted by: Batman Beyond
I am not familiar with the Doube-0-Heaven cut. I do have the NSMcCloryA, though. Whats the difference between the two?
Also, has anyone considered re-editing the old CR into an EON Bond? Since it'd be before DR. NO, it wouldn't really need a title sequence, and the music could sporadic while leading to the Bond theme by the end.
It might be able to re-edit that B/W feature into a prequel to the EON series. What do you say?
I am not familiar with the Doube-0-Heaven cut. I do have the NSMcCloryA, though. Whats the difference between the two?
Also, has anyone considered re-editing the old CR into an EON Bond? Since it'd be before DR. NO, it wouldn't really need a title sequence, and the music could sporadic while leading to the Bond theme by the end.
It might be able to re-edit that B/W feature into a prequel to the EON series. What do you say?
Try reading the thread from the start, A: you will get your answers and B: some things have already been asked
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Originally posted by: marioxb
What was used as the pre-credits sequence? EDIT- I watched the clip of the opening on that site. Is that the WHOLE pre-credits scene, or is it the whole opening scene from the real movie? If it starts where the girl is tied up on the bed, that's pretty short, isn't it? The way I would have done it would have been to use the ENTIRE opening of NSNA minus the singing and credits. Anyone know of a way to remove the credits?
What was used as the pre-credits sequence? EDIT- I watched the clip of the opening on that site. Is that the WHOLE pre-credits scene, or is it the whole opening scene from the real movie? If it starts where the girl is tied up on the bed, that's pretty short, isn't it? The way I would have done it would have been to use the ENTIRE opening of NSNA minus the singing and credits. Anyone know of a way to remove the credits?
There are automatic logo removers - but they'll give you (a) distracting blurry area(s).
Or it can be done with a compositor (preferably with motion-tracking to compensate for camera movement). Mask off the credits, and then take the clean frames before and/or after each credit to replace them. But whenever an actor (and the leaves, in this case) move, you end up with something that resembles glitches in the mpeg. So you have to do corrective surgery in an image editor. Morph/tween/slo-mo proggies can interpolate between the clean frames to give you something to patch with - if you're lucky, you can repair one or more frames, then tween again. Tween gets confused if there's a lot of movement between frames, but you can clip to matching portions of each frame.
I can do the compositing, but I don't have time to do the frame-by-frame image repair. (I'm in the middle of cleaning up credits from a couple of TNG episodes, which is tough, in places, because the credits are huge in comparison to this one's).
Compositing doesn't work for all credits. For example, it wouldn't help where the camera is flying over the everglades, because the perspective keeps changing. But I doubt if an editor would want to use those shots anyway - too lengthy for anything other than credits. And the rotating shot of the building would need a lot of hand work to fix the foliage. You can fix a single frame to look good - but when you fix a bunch & put it into motion, you see fluctuations... you can fix half the frames and do a slo-mo, though, and that'll smooth it out some...
Looking at the DVD, most of the shots look fairly reasonable. But there are always problems that you don't really notice until you've done the compositing.
Image editing is a ***** at DVD resolution, by the way. It would be infinitely easier to repair HD-rez frames & shrink them. There was a Bond flood in a.b.hdtv, but those have all expired. I haven't seen them in the repost group, yet. But they might turn up again. Maybe somebody downloaded them?
HD would also give you the choice of cropping out parts of the credits...
There would probably be some color grading issues between the DVD and HD versions, maybe not distracting if you stick to whole shots. I'm not knowlegeble enough to deal with that problem, yet.
It would probably be feasable, right now, for a company to make tweening software that could automatically remove credits/logos in most scenes. But nobody's gone that far yet. It could read previous frames, interpolate & tween, and you'd just tell it what sections to replace. The makers of another type of software are talking about doing one of those functions, for another purpose. One of these days... maybe...
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And what about the replacing Lulu's Man With The Golden Gun with Alice Coopers version, that I'd like to see.
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Originally posted by: Jaiman Tuckuh
There are automatic logo removers - but they'll give you (a) distracting blurry area(s).
Or it can be done with a compositor (preferably with motion-tracking to compensate for camera movement). Mask off the credits, and then take the clean frames before and/or after each credit to replace them. But whenever an actor (and the leaves, in this case) move, you end up with something that resembles glitches in the mpeg. So you have to do corrective surgery in an image editor. Morph/tween/slo-mo proggies can interpolate between the clean frames to give you something to patch with - if you're lucky, you can repair one or more frames, then tween again. Tween gets confused if there's a lot of movement between frames, but you can clip to matching portions of each frame.
I can do the compositing, but I don't have time to do the frame-by-frame image repair. (I'm in the middle of cleaning up credits from a couple of TNG episodes, which is tough, in places, because the credits are huge in comparison to this one's).
Compositing doesn't work for all credits. For example, it wouldn't help where the camera is flying over the everglades, because the perspective keeps changing. But I doubt if an editor would want to use those shots anyway - too lengthy for anything other than credits. And the rotating shot of the building would need a lot of hand work to fix the foliage. You can fix a single frame to look good - but when you fix a bunch & put it into motion, you see fluctuations... you can fix half the frames and do a slo-mo, though, and that'll smooth it out some...
Looking at the DVD, most of the shots look fairly reasonable. But there are always problems that you don't really notice until you've done the compositing.
Image editing is a ***** at DVD resolution, by the way. It would be infinitely easier to repair HD-rez frames & shrink them. There was a Bond flood in a.b.hdtv, but those have all expired. I haven't seen them in the repost group, yet. But they might turn up again. Maybe somebody downloaded them?
HD would also give you the choice of cropping out parts of the credits...
There would probably be some color grading issues between the DVD and HD versions, maybe not distracting if you stick to whole shots. I'm not knowlegeble enough to deal with that problem, yet.
It would probably be feasable, right now, for a company to make tweening software that could automatically remove credits/logos in most scenes. But nobody's gone that far yet. It could read previous frames, interpolate & tween, and you'd just tell it what sections to replace. The makers of another type of software are talking about doing one of those functions, for another purpose. One of these days... maybe...
Originally posted by: marioxb
What was used as the pre-credits sequence? EDIT- I watched the clip of the opening on that site. Is that the WHOLE pre-credits scene, or is it the whole opening scene from the real movie? If it starts where the girl is tied up on the bed, that's pretty short, isn't it? The way I would have done it would have been to use the ENTIRE opening of NSNA minus the singing and credits. Anyone know of a way to remove the credits?
What was used as the pre-credits sequence? EDIT- I watched the clip of the opening on that site. Is that the WHOLE pre-credits scene, or is it the whole opening scene from the real movie? If it starts where the girl is tied up on the bed, that's pretty short, isn't it? The way I would have done it would have been to use the ENTIRE opening of NSNA minus the singing and credits. Anyone know of a way to remove the credits?
There are automatic logo removers - but they'll give you (a) distracting blurry area(s).
Or it can be done with a compositor (preferably with motion-tracking to compensate for camera movement). Mask off the credits, and then take the clean frames before and/or after each credit to replace them. But whenever an actor (and the leaves, in this case) move, you end up with something that resembles glitches in the mpeg. So you have to do corrective surgery in an image editor. Morph/tween/slo-mo proggies can interpolate between the clean frames to give you something to patch with - if you're lucky, you can repair one or more frames, then tween again. Tween gets confused if there's a lot of movement between frames, but you can clip to matching portions of each frame.
I can do the compositing, but I don't have time to do the frame-by-frame image repair. (I'm in the middle of cleaning up credits from a couple of TNG episodes, which is tough, in places, because the credits are huge in comparison to this one's).
Compositing doesn't work for all credits. For example, it wouldn't help where the camera is flying over the everglades, because the perspective keeps changing. But I doubt if an editor would want to use those shots anyway - too lengthy for anything other than credits. And the rotating shot of the building would need a lot of hand work to fix the foliage. You can fix a single frame to look good - but when you fix a bunch & put it into motion, you see fluctuations... you can fix half the frames and do a slo-mo, though, and that'll smooth it out some...
Looking at the DVD, most of the shots look fairly reasonable. But there are always problems that you don't really notice until you've done the compositing.
Image editing is a ***** at DVD resolution, by the way. It would be infinitely easier to repair HD-rez frames & shrink them. There was a Bond flood in a.b.hdtv, but those have all expired. I haven't seen them in the repost group, yet. But they might turn up again. Maybe somebody downloaded them?
HD would also give you the choice of cropping out parts of the credits...
There would probably be some color grading issues between the DVD and HD versions, maybe not distracting if you stick to whole shots. I'm not knowlegeble enough to deal with that problem, yet.
It would probably be feasable, right now, for a company to make tweening software that could automatically remove credits/logos in most scenes. But nobody's gone that far yet. It could read previous frames, interpolate & tween, and you'd just tell it what sections to replace. The makers of another type of software are talking about doing one of those functions, for another purpose. One of these days... maybe...
Have you seen the edit of this movie? Was any of this done already?
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Originally posted by: marioxb
Have you seen the edit of this movie? Was any of this done already?
Have you seen the edit of this movie? Was any of this done already?
No, I don't have the edit, I'd like to see it though.
The movie has some action, after the credits, before the point where the sample starts, he may've chosen to use that.
I'd never heard of anyone using compositing to remove credits, before I tried it. But it works (in many cases), so I was throwing the idea out there. Just in case he had done that, or might want to make a version 2 or something.
One day I found... 10 years had got behind me. Next day was worse.
Download shows from Cable DVR (Updated! Yes, it needs a rewrite, but it's worth slogging through, anyway).