Originally posted by: vote_for_palpatine
It matters a lot--it shows you have no grounds for claiming that this forum is meant to cater to a specific mindset. It's awfully pretentious of you to come in here and act like you know more about this forum and its purpose than the long-time members and even its founders.
I once knew a kid who was just like you--he would come over on weekends, and proceed to act like everything I owned was his. He would decide what movies we were and weren't allowed to watch, what video games we weren't allowed to play, and what activities we were and weren't to anticipate in. He would even plug devices into my computer without permission (which caused me to have to delete several viruses). I like to keep things perfectly organized, but he would leave games on the floor and CD-ROMs laying on tables, out of cases. Finally, I got sick of him and simply said I don't want him to come over anymore.
You're the same damn way: You come to this forum with fists swinging and laying down all these rules about what is and isn't allowed, but guess what: This is not your forum. You don't own it, you didn't create it. All you did was fill out a signup form and recieve a password. You haven't even been here half as long as Go-Mer has, and yet you have this notion that God or someone has given you divine authority to tell Go-Mer what he is or isn't allowed to post. So sorry, but Go-Mer has not violated the TOS or any forum rules, so he is quite welcome here unless the actual moderators of this. YOU are little more than a spoiled, pampered brat, crying "me me me." YOU are the one who does not belong here, because this forum is about Star Wars, and that's ALL Star Wars, not just the parts you want to hear about, not just pandering to your private wants, not just you, you, you.
You want a forum where all anyone can talk about is what you want to hear? Make your own forum. Don't pester up forums that you didn't create and are not a recognized authority figure on and go telling everyone what we're not allowed to say.
Does the hostility by some here bother you? Good. Now you have a taste of what it felt like over there.
That's it. Nowhere does it say "OT Only."
Really? What's the URL again?
A URL is just a location, not a descriptor. If I live on Smith Street, it doesn't mean my last name is Smith.
-none of whom try to jam the PT/SE up our ass. Notice no one is complaining about those other "many, many members?" Explain that, resident sociologist.
Again your stance changes. First you say there shouldn't be PT/SE discussion at all, then you say PT/SE discussion is allowed as long as its limited to criticism of the PT/SE, now you say its allowed as long as it's not "jammed up our ass." Pick a stance and stick with it, man.
Furthermore, I've been involved in many of the same discussions as Go-Mer (and not always on his side) and I fail to see how he's "jamming it up our ass" any more than any other PT fan is, and I've never once seen him derail a topic as many here claim. Indeed, in every topic I've seen where he talks about the PT, the PT was already a relevant topic anyway. The only thing he does is take a stance that isn't precisely the same as all the angry extremist anti-Lucas nerds here, in fact he's probably the most cool-minded and reasonable poster here.
If anything, it's not Go-Mer that derails topics... its people who spam up every topic Go-Mer is in just so they can bash him. Which, by the way, I've read this board's terms of service, and harrassing another member is A VIOLATION OF THOSE TERMS. And yet, Go-Mer's critics have made a topic all about Go-Mer--by this site's own TOS, that should be grounds for an immediate ban of the topic starter (not to mention, this topic is posted in "General Star Wars" when in fact it has nothing to do with Star Wars, so its off-topic as well).
I also like the "people who joined the forum quite recently". I'm sure that matters.
Really? What's the URL again?
A URL is just a location, not a descriptor. If I live on Smith Street, it doesn't mean my last name is Smith.
In fact even before Go-Mer came, most of our topics were about the PT. When I first arrived here in 2004, most of our discussion had nothing to do with the OT and in fact was all about the PT and people speculating on how Lucas was going to resolve certain plot points in the PT.
So? I'd much rather read Jay, Zion, Anchorhead, Gaffer Tape, Darth Evil, CO, Cable X-1, Invader Jenny, Tiptup, and other OUT fans discuss the PT instead of reading Go-Mer-Tonic, Jedi Randy, Stormtrooper 1776, Darth Toe Jam, and other PT fans discuss anything. When I'm in the mood for their opinions, I go elsewhere. At least I used to, before the infection spread.
Sorry bud, but it doesn't work that way--you can't say PT discussion isn't allowed, then turn around and say it is but only in certain circumstances. It either is or it isn't.
And the last way you're going to win an arguement is by saying "You can speak, but only as long as you agree with me." Guess what? You don't own the forum, and the people who DO own it apparently see nothing wrong with Go-Mer or pro-PT discussion, or they would say so. Your behavior is the height of arrogance and self-righteousness.
Thirdly, if this forum is only for discussing the OUT, why do we have a section called "Theatrical Cuts vs. Special Editions"? Oops, facts shoot you in the foot once again.
I, for one among many, doubt the sincerity of that support.
Too bad your doubts mean nothing. That is, unless you have some damning evidence that his support is just a facade. And no, "he supports the PT" is not evidence.
(In fact, I've begun to wonder if we'll next petition for the uncut, theatrical release of the PT).
This forum was NEVER about bashing the PT or the SEs, in fact there have been many, many members here who have loved both and don't demonize George Lucas
So? I'd much rather read Jay, Zion, Anchorhead, Gaffer Tape, Darth Evil, CO, Cable X-1, Invader Jenny, Tiptup, and other OUT fans discuss the PT instead of reading Go-Mer-Tonic, Jedi Randy, Stormtrooper 1776, Darth Toe Jam, and other PT fans discuss anything. When I'm in the mood for their opinions, I go elsewhere. At least I used to, before the infection spread.
Sorry bud, but it doesn't work that way--you can't say PT discussion isn't allowed, then turn around and say it is but only in certain circumstances. It either is or it isn't.
And the last way you're going to win an arguement is by saying "You can speak, but only as long as you agree with me." Guess what? You don't own the forum, and the people who DO own it apparently see nothing wrong with Go-Mer or pro-PT discussion, or they would say so. Your behavior is the height of arrogance and self-righteousness.
Thirdly, if this forum is only for discussing the OUT, why do we have a section called "Theatrical Cuts vs. Special Editions"? Oops, facts shoot you in the foot once again.
In fact, the name "originaltrilogy.com" has nothing to do with the forum itself, but simply that this site is a campaign headquarters for the preservation of the original, unaltered versions of the first three Star Wars movies. The forum is not even the main goal or feature of this site--it is purely an accessory.
It's a campaign HQ - for like-minded fans.
Only in your interpretation.
Yes, I remember the extensive discussion on this topic at a lyceum our local university hosted.
Unless the founders and owners of this site were present at this discussion, whatever conclusions you came to are still your subjective beliefs and don't mean jack.
Geez, would you go up to the owners of Wal-Mart and tell them what products they're not allowed to carry as well? Because that's the exact impression I'm getting from you--one of those errant nobodies who feels he owns and controls everything.
The entire focus of this site is getting the O-OT out on DVD and in the best quality possible. If you support that, you belong here. Go-Mer supports that, so he belongs.
It's a campaign HQ - for like-minded fans.
Only in your interpretation.
The idea that originaltrilogy.com is a site strictly for those who don't like the PT and who only want to discuss the original versions of the first three Star Wars films is entirely a modern myth.
Yes, I remember the extensive discussion on this topic at a lyceum our local university hosted.
Unless the founders and owners of this site were present at this discussion, whatever conclusions you came to are still your subjective beliefs and don't mean jack.
Geez, would you go up to the owners of Wal-Mart and tell them what products they're not allowed to carry as well? Because that's the exact impression I'm getting from you--one of those errant nobodies who feels he owns and controls everything.
The entire focus of this site is getting the O-OT out on DVD and in the best quality possible. If you support that, you belong here. Go-Mer supports that, so he belongs.
I, for one among many, doubt the sincerity of that support.
Too bad your doubts mean nothing. That is, unless you have some damning evidence that his support is just a facade. And no, "he supports the PT" is not evidence.
(In fact, I've begun to wonder if we'll next petition for the uncut, theatrical release of the PT).
This forum was NEVER about bashing the PT or the SEs, in fact there have been many, many members here who have loved both and don't demonize George Lucas
-none of whom try to jam the PT/SE up our ass. Notice no one is complaining about those other "many, many members?" Explain that, resident sociologist.
Again your stance changes. First you say there shouldn't be PT/SE discussion at all, then you say PT/SE discussion is allowed as long as its limited to criticism of the PT/SE, now you say its allowed as long as it's not "jammed up our ass." Pick a stance and stick with it, man.
Furthermore, I've been involved in many of the same discussions as Go-Mer (and not always on his side) and I fail to see how he's "jamming it up our ass" any more than any other PT fan is, and I've never once seen him derail a topic as many here claim. Indeed, in every topic I've seen where he talks about the PT, the PT was already a relevant topic anyway. The only thing he does is take a stance that isn't precisely the same as all the angry extremist anti-Lucas nerds here, in fact he's probably the most cool-minded and reasonable poster here.
If anything, it's not Go-Mer that derails topics... its people who spam up every topic Go-Mer is in just so they can bash him. Which, by the way, I've read this board's terms of service, and harrassing another member is A VIOLATION OF THOSE TERMS. And yet, Go-Mer's critics have made a topic all about Go-Mer--by this site's own TOS, that should be grounds for an immediate ban of the topic starter (not to mention, this topic is posted in "General Star Wars" when in fact it has nothing to do with Star Wars, so its off-topic as well).
I also like the "people who joined the forum quite recently". I'm sure that matters.
It matters a lot--it shows you have no grounds for claiming that this forum is meant to cater to a specific mindset. It's awfully pretentious of you to come in here and act like you know more about this forum and its purpose than the long-time members and even its founders.
I once knew a kid who was just like you--he would come over on weekends, and proceed to act like everything I owned was his. He would decide what movies we were and weren't allowed to watch, what video games we weren't allowed to play, and what activities we were and weren't to anticipate in. He would even plug devices into my computer without permission (which caused me to have to delete several viruses). I like to keep things perfectly organized, but he would leave games on the floor and CD-ROMs laying on tables, out of cases. Finally, I got sick of him and simply said I don't want him to come over anymore.
You're the same damn way: You come to this forum with fists swinging and laying down all these rules about what is and isn't allowed, but guess what: This is not your forum. You don't own it, you didn't create it. All you did was fill out a signup form and recieve a password. You haven't even been here half as long as Go-Mer has, and yet you have this notion that God or someone has given you divine authority to tell Go-Mer what he is or isn't allowed to post. So sorry, but Go-Mer has not violated the TOS or any forum rules, so he is quite welcome here unless the actual moderators of this. YOU are little more than a spoiled, pampered brat, crying "me me me." YOU are the one who does not belong here, because this forum is about Star Wars, and that's ALL Star Wars, not just the parts you want to hear about, not just pandering to your private wants, not just you, you, you.
You want a forum where all anyone can talk about is what you want to hear? Make your own forum. Don't pester up forums that you didn't create and are not a recognized authority figure on and go telling everyone what we're not allowed to say.
Does the hostility by some here bother you? Good. Now you have a taste of what it felt like over there.
So... this entire arguement is because you have some unfulfilled need for revenge?