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But great looking logo.
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But great looking logo.
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Is that what you meant?Trooperman, I'm dying to hear your thoughts on the logo when you're next in this thread. I was considering breaking the little join between the U & D of "shroud". It looks slightly odd currently.
What color schemes do people want me to try on this logo?
I was toying with the idea of a logo much like the original OT-styled "Attack of the Clones" logo. That is to say, "Shroud" on the top line, "of the" centered in the middle with a rule on either side, and "Dark Side" on the bottom. For an example of what I mean, you can see the AOTC logo on this wallpaper.
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Originally posted by: klokwerk
And thanks to Twister for the links...
Originally posted by: twister111
Sorry, I haven't posted here lately. It's just that I haven't had anything to say. I searched for Episode II publicity shots/concept art. Results follow: (Links removed for quoting)
There ya go klokwerk.
twister111, thanks for those links. I actually had most of those images however, there were several that I didn't have as well as higher quality versions of some of the ones I do have. Thanks.
Sorry, I haven't posted here lately. It's just that I haven't had anything to say. I searched for Episode II publicity shots/concept art. Results follow: (Links removed for quoting)
There ya go klokwerk.
twister111, thanks for those links. I actually had most of those images however, there were several that I didn't have as well as higher quality versions of some of the ones I do have. Thanks.
And thanks to Twister for the links...
Your welcome you two. I also found some more.
Images at this Costume making site
You'll have to copy and past these url's becuase it's hosted on geocities:
Landing scene - > http://www.geocities.com/swtnz_mcquarrie/transport_wallpaper1024.jpg
Some OT stuff I found that I might as well include here.
Mcquarrie OT artwork - > http://www.geocities.com/swtnz_mcquarrie/modified_mcquarrie_wallpaper1024.jpg
Some more matte's
http://twister111.tumblr.com
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That's it! I was wondering why the logo looked a little off. However, I tried making "dark side" bigger and it's not really possible to do so and keep the title in a rectangle. I came up with this compromise (I also dropped the connection between the U & D of "shroud" and extended the R's leg). Does it look better this way?
Then I pictured "Shroud" on the top, "of the" on the next line with rules on either side, "dark" on the next line and finally "side" on the bottom. I just quickly gave that one a go. You can see it below (a rough mock-up). Now I need to get some sleep. I want to hear everyone's thoughts though.
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I seem to be going against a lot of people with that (even TM, it seems), but those are my $.02
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Trooperman
Wow- thanks to and Bespinsec for the encouragement. This movie WILL be done this year. And thanks again to LTH for considering making an Ep. I to match. I'm really very excited.
Now, as far as a commentary track- I probably have enough material for 3 commentaries. That's not an issue
I guess the question is whether you want a commentary on the single-layer release (which would probably diminish the video quality of the actual film).
That's a fair point, and could be a hard call to make. Are plans for DL still in the works?
Thanks for the info, that sounds like a phenomenal running time considering all your edits. I forgot how much you've worked out replacement footage. I would imagine your approach might have actually increased breating space and "flow" in the movie - one of the things that made ESB so great IMO was the natural pacing and silence.
Trooperman
At that time, I'll sit down with a pencil and paper and run the film from start to finish, making a list of every single technical flaw or pacing flaw that I see/hear. Then, I'll go through the movie and implement all of the changes, which will hopefully not take very long.
Wow- thanks to and Bespinsec for the encouragement. This movie WILL be done this year. And thanks again to LTH for considering making an Ep. I to match. I'm really very excited.
Now, as far as a commentary track- I probably have enough material for 3 commentaries. That's not an issue
I guess the question is whether you want a commentary on the single-layer release (which would probably diminish the video quality of the actual film). That's a fair point, and could be a hard call to make. Are plans for DL still in the works?
Trooperman
Actually, I think SOTDS is turning out to be around 2 hrs (or a little more). I don't have a final running time yet (but I should soon). This is because a lot of rotten scenes were given new meaning, dialogue, and music, and actually became good scenes. Rather than cut out a lot of scenes, I tried my darndest to make what was already there good. Not just adequate or watchable (by cutting out offensive dialogue, etc.)- but good. I think that's what will differentiate this from a lot of other edits. I replaced things and changed things that worked fine. Why? Because I wanted it to be breathtaking! I'll leave it to others to decide whether it worked or not...
Actually, I think SOTDS is turning out to be around 2 hrs (or a little more). I don't have a final running time yet (but I should soon). This is because a lot of rotten scenes were given new meaning, dialogue, and music, and actually became good scenes. Rather than cut out a lot of scenes, I tried my darndest to make what was already there good. Not just adequate or watchable (by cutting out offensive dialogue, etc.)- but good. I think that's what will differentiate this from a lot of other edits. I replaced things and changed things that worked fine. Why? Because I wanted it to be breathtaking! I'll leave it to others to decide whether it worked or not...
Thanks for the info, that sounds like a phenomenal running time considering all your edits. I forgot how much you've worked out replacement footage. I would imagine your approach might have actually increased breating space and "flow" in the movie - one of the things that made ESB so great IMO was the natural pacing and silence.
Trooperman
At that time, I'll sit down with a pencil and paper and run the film from start to finish, making a list of every single technical flaw or pacing flaw that I see/hear. Then, I'll go through the movie and implement all of the changes, which will hopefully not take very long.
Check your PM's.
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I'm wondering because I'm looking at TPM for Ith's edit and wondering what Jar Jar will sound like (if he's modeling his edit after yours)...
Oh, and I hope I didn't open a can of worms when I suggested that the DVD cover look more OT! I hope I didn't offend you, klokwerk!
But the stuff your cranking out is great! I DO think THX is on to something though...
Attack of the Clones: Alternate Timeline Edit Thread:
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/SSWRs-Attack-of-the-Clones-Alternate-Timeline-Edit/id/66888
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Originally posted by: boreddusty
I definitely like what you've done with the text, but I don't really think that the Ani/Padme(Shmi?) cover fits with what TM is doing. I the think that the one used previously has a more OT-feel. I seem to be going against a lot of people with that (even TM, it seems), but those are my $.02
That's okay. I'll definitely be doing a cover with the Episode II theatrical poster. Don't worry. I don't think the fan-made pic of Padme/Anakin will be a cover image in the end. I might end up using it for a chapter insert as TM suggested (I think it was TM). I could do a cover with that as the front if people want, but yes since it doesn't actually occur in the movie I think it shouldn't take pride of place as front cover. I guess you could use the logic that the chapter inserts for the 2004 DVD used heavily filtered concept pieces - and sort of in parallel to that I could use this fan piece.
That's okay because as I mention above I will most likely do a bunch of variations on the front cover. At this point I am just using that particular piece as it was the first thing I experimented with in Photoshop. However, I also above posted a different piece to mix things up a bit. I am thinking more and more of trying to create a front cover 'poster' image by making a collage of concept art or something. MTHaslett posted the cover of the "Art of SW: AOTC" and I still would love to get some scans of that book. I might have to check and see how much it is to buy. Darth Richard mentioned an idea that "only Coov could pull off". Personally I would rather see Coov tackle Building Empire first (as he did so many great covers for Deleted Magic) but I'd be interested in his take on SOTDS.
Originally posted by: musicman
I love that logo, klokwerk! Great job! IMO, though, I would definitely go for some kind of Struzan poster art image for the cover, or at least something along those lines.
I definitely like what you've done with the text, but I don't really think that the Ani/Padme(Shmi?) cover fits with what TM is doing. I the think that the one used previously has a more OT-feel. I seem to be going against a lot of people with that (even TM, it seems), but those are my $.02
That's okay. I'll definitely be doing a cover with the Episode II theatrical poster. Don't worry. I don't think the fan-made pic of Padme/Anakin will be a cover image in the end. I might end up using it for a chapter insert as TM suggested (I think it was TM). I could do a cover with that as the front if people want, but yes since it doesn't actually occur in the movie I think it shouldn't take pride of place as front cover. I guess you could use the logic that the chapter inserts for the 2004 DVD used heavily filtered concept pieces - and sort of in parallel to that I could use this fan piece.
Originally posted by: Bespinsec
I support the concept of a more vintage-looking cover that fits Trooperman's vision - an older, darker feel. Many of EP2's covers and images are far too glossy and "tiger beaty". Paying attention to color saturation and avoiding images that are too squeaky clean and sharp would go along way towards rectifying that. Cover elements that feel out of place and unworkable are, IMHO, things like Jango Fett, shots that look like something out of Cosmo, shots of the droids, Yoda, and any shots of kids. Those would be my no-no's.
This is a good starting point for a collage. I was thinking of trying to mesh some concept art together into a 'poster'-like image (or if need be a promo shot collage). I agree on most of your character no-no's. I guess it would be hard to create an image that captures the essence of SOTDS without seeing it first... but I'll have a go over the next few days.
No, you didn't offend me. Don't be silly! I've finally got some free time and I've been doing some Photoshop/Premiere stuff that's been sitting on my drive for months. The fact that SOTDS is nearing completion just meant that going back to the cover and experimenting was a logical thing to do. I am enjoying this logo experimentation.
Originally posted by: Commander Courage
The font and logo concepts look great, but I do have a problem with the latest cover art suggestion. Don't get me wrong, I like it a lot, but it's pre-Episode II fan art, and depicts something that does not happen in the actual film. I'm all for stylized OT-esque covers, but there is so much "official" material to work with I don't think we need to settle for a five year old fan manipulation.
I support the concept of a more vintage-looking cover that fits Trooperman's vision - an older, darker feel. Many of EP2's covers and images are far too glossy and "tiger beaty". Paying attention to color saturation and avoiding images that are too squeaky clean and sharp would go along way towards rectifying that. Cover elements that feel out of place and unworkable are, IMHO, things like Jango Fett, shots that look like something out of Cosmo, shots of the droids, Yoda, and any shots of kids. Those would be my no-no's.
This is a good starting point for a collage. I was thinking of trying to mesh some concept art together into a 'poster'-like image (or if need be a promo shot collage). I agree on most of your character no-no's. I guess it would be hard to create an image that captures the essence of SOTDS without seeing it first... but I'll have a go over the next few days.
Originally posted by: THX
klokwerk, nice work on the logo. However, one of the things that made the OT logos interesting was that they were all different (unlike the PT logos). The main SW font is not the best choice, IMHO, for an episode logo. What they've done on the wallpaper you linked to is make the AOTC logo look like the ESB logo, which kind of works as they are both middle episodes. I think that italic font (which isn't a font really) would look better than what you have. But then you'd have to do Ep I like SW and Ep III like ROTJ... So you might consider just coming up with an original logo, as long as it has the SW box/lines, like the ESB & ROTJ logos.
I played around with the italic font and different spacing etc. I came up with a somewhat original logo. ESB's original logo was the "Star Wars" font, the original Star Wars logo was that strange perspective angled one and ROTJ had the boring Times New Roman logo. They were all different but the Star Wars font does seem a tad overused. I will keep experimenting (I have a few more variations to try out). For now though, here's my latest logo against a different EpII piece:
Originally posted by: SomethingStarWarsRelated
Oh, and I hope I didn't open a can of worms when I suggested that the DVD cover look more OT! I hope I didn't offend you, klokwerk! But the stuff your cranking out is great! I DO think THX is on to something though...
klokwerk, nice work on the logo. However, one of the things that made the OT logos interesting was that they were all different (unlike the PT logos). The main SW font is not the best choice, IMHO, for an episode logo. What they've done on the wallpaper you linked to is make the AOTC logo look like the ESB logo, which kind of works as they are both middle episodes. I think that italic font (which isn't a font really) would look better than what you have. But then you'd have to do Ep I like SW and Ep III like ROTJ... So you might consider just coming up with an original logo, as long as it has the SW box/lines, like the ESB & ROTJ logos.
I played around with the italic font and different spacing etc. I came up with a somewhat original logo. ESB's original logo was the "Star Wars" font, the original Star Wars logo was that strange perspective angled one and ROTJ had the boring Times New Roman logo. They were all different but the Star Wars font does seem a tad overused. I will keep experimenting (I have a few more variations to try out). For now though, here's my latest logo against a different EpII piece:
Originally posted by: SomethingStarWarsRelated
Oh, and I hope I didn't open a can of worms when I suggested that the DVD cover look more OT! I hope I didn't offend you, klokwerk!
But the stuff your cranking out is great! I DO think THX is on to something though... No, you didn't offend me. Don't be silly! I've finally got some free time and I've been doing some Photoshop/Premiere stuff that's been sitting on my drive for months. The fact that SOTDS is nearing completion just meant that going back to the cover and experimenting was a logical thing to do. I am enjoying this logo experimentation.
Originally posted by: Commander Courage
The font and logo concepts look great, but I do have a problem with the latest cover art suggestion. Don't get me wrong, I like it a lot, but it's pre-Episode II fan art, and depicts something that does not happen in the actual film. I'm all for stylized OT-esque covers, but there is so much "official" material to work with I don't think we need to settle for a five year old fan manipulation.
That's okay because as I mention above I will most likely do a bunch of variations on the front cover. At this point I am just using that particular piece as it was the first thing I experimented with in Photoshop. However, I also above posted a different piece to mix things up a bit. I am thinking more and more of trying to create a front cover 'poster' image by making a collage of concept art or something. MTHaslett posted the cover of the "Art of SW: AOTC" and I still would love to get some scans of that book. I might have to check and see how much it is to buy. Darth Richard mentioned an idea that "only Coov could pull off". Personally I would rather see Coov tackle Building Empire first (as he did so many great covers for Deleted Magic) but I'd be interested in his take on SOTDS.
Originally posted by: musicman
I love that logo, klokwerk! Great job! IMO, though, I would definitely go for some kind of Struzan poster art image for the cover, or at least something along those lines.
Not to worry, the Struzan Episode II poster art will be used on at least one version of the cover.
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Now, if anyone has any thoughts please refer to the logos by number so I know which one you mean.
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Here's a link to a free font site that might provide you with a few other options just to try: TypeNow
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Attack of the Clones: Alternate Timeline Edit Thread:
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/SSWRs-Attack-of-the-Clones-Alternate-Timeline-Edit/id/66888
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Originally posted by: SomethingStarWarsRelated
Hmmm 8 or 9...I actually think I'm leaning towards 9...too much empty space in 8...?
Hmmm 8 or 9...I actually think I'm leaning towards 9...too much empty space in 8...?
Uh, 9? Are you considering the legend to be logo design #7? It's #7 that has too much empty space. There are only 8 logos shown.
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2 other tiny things: I think the central crossbar of the "E" should be equal length to the others, and I'd like it if "Star Wars" was broken up, with "Star" at the top and "Wars" below the main logo, a la ESB. Also, "Shroud of the" looks stretched widthways compared to "Dark Side" and is sloping very slightly more. Okay, that was three things. Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
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Yeah, LOL! Good to hear that there'll be some Struzan action!
I'd say my favorites right now are probably 4, 5, and 8. I really like no. 4. I guess it's a little more traditional looking to me, and I like that. Numbers 5 and 8 are pretty much tied for me. And I agree that the words should definitely fill the box. I would definitely like to see the box slanted, at least just to see what it looks like. But yeah, my vote goes to number 4, although you've done a great job on all of them. This is going to be real class, I can tell!