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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION — Page 18

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BTW, I forgot to say it looks very, very good.

To nitpick though I think the colour correction inside Ben's hut is a little too bright, the upright area behind Ben's head has blown out.
It is meant to be ian interior of that dingy old hut, so it probably should lean towards the dark side instead of towards 7-11.

Edit: I can't spell nitpick!
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When I first watched it I thought it was mustafar as I saw this....



http://www.mudgee.net/ot/redplanet.jpg


But then scrubbing back through the video I realised my VLC had a problem - either that or you were making Smurf Wars.








http://www.mudgee.net/ot/smurphwars.jpg

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Originally posted by: Laserman

http://www.mudgee.net/ot/smurphwars.jpg

That's pretty amazing right there.

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Well he is prone to a blue colour cast these days...
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adywan: I really think the new death star scene is great. It adds a great feel to the Empire that if you think about was always missing. The Empire was always talked about as some galaxy spanning oppressive juggernaut but other than the death star you never get a sense of the "Imperial Might" that is the Empire and I really think the new scene adds much needed "scale" to them. To me it heightens the element of danger and difficulty that the heroes must overcome to win which makes the movie just that much better.


Not to be anal and If I missed you saying the scene still needs some work I apologize. But I noticed something as the Stardestroyer approaches the Deathstar (at 1:18 on the time indicator). As the Stardestroyer in the background gets covered by the Deathstar, the outer edge of the Deathstar seemed somewhat transparent and you could see part of the background Stardestroyer through the Deathstar. Maybe it’s just me and if it’s still in progress I’m sorry to be a nag. On closer inspection I think I may be making things up, it looks ok after I took a better look.

Anyhow great work the scene is already spectacular.

"The Empire can't stop us now..now its our turn" -Luke-

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Everything looks absolutely awesome, as everyone else has said. But not only that it sounds awesome as well. I don't know what you did to Vader's voice, but it matches perfectly with ESB. ROTJ, and ROTS and really makes everyting fit together. If nothing else, your edit would kick A$$ for that.

Every change that I have seen so far only adds to the film and makes Star Wars feel more like the rest of the saga.

Keep up the good work.

Dan Stokes
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P.S. I was really amazed to see how much adding a planet into an effects shot really made your scene feel like a mix of OT and PT. One thing that really sets the two styles apart, at least for me, is how Black and White space scenes are in the OT as compared to the PT.

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Wow! adywan!
OK, first off...

Audio: excellent! Darth sounds amazing! the EQ sounds better over all...

New DS approach: HOLY COW! Just amazing! This should have been here a long time ago! I dig the planet, I dig the scale (yeah, maybe check on those SD), I dig the music!
Of course, a few "nitpicks": you might consider reducing the number of ties in that first shot of the DS. I was blown away by the entire shot, but I didn't know where to look at first...I think the DS should be the focus.

Music: the piece when Vader says "I find your lack of faith disturbing" is freakin' awesome! chilling!

Question: did you trim a few frames from the conference scene? some shots seem shorter...?

Pic of droids going down below: finally! no more pick blob!

Again, just amazing work! I keep watching this clip over and over!

Also, if this is one of your last clips to show all of us, obviously, I'm sad.
BUT don't be afraid to bounce ideas off of us...hopefully our nitpicking has helped and not hendered your progress!

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This has the be the tough part. Do you take a peek at all the presents before Christmas morning or do you wait for the surprise. Personally, I've seen enough surprises for now. Adywan has sufficiently proved to me that the edit is going to be awesome.

And I'm sure there will be plenty of idea bouncing to come.
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Originally posted by: SomethingStarWarsRelated

New DS approach: HOLY COW! Just amazing! This should have been here a long time ago! I dig the planet, I dig the scale (yeah, maybe check on those SD), I dig the music!
Of course, a few "nitpicks": you might consider reducing the number of ties in that first shot of the DS. I was blown away by the entire shot, but I didn't know where to look at first...I think the DS should be the focus.
I've reduced the size of the stardestroyers and takes out a couple of ties on the first shot of the death star
Music: the piece when Vader says "I find your lack of faith disturbing" is freakin' awesome! chilling!

Question: did you trim a few frames from the conference scene? some shots seem shorter...?

No i haven't trimed any frames
Also, if this is one of your last clips to show all of us, obviously, I'm sad.
BUT don't be afraid to bounce ideas off of us...hopefully our nitpicking has helped and not hendered your progress!

I'll still be bouncing my ideas off you all. I just thought that posting so many clips would probably spoil the whole surprise element of the new edit, plus rendering the clips to post is taking time away that could be better spent on finishing the movie ( its taking hell of a lot longer than i first thought). Everyones input and ideas have been invaluable for this edit and i am very grateful. I couldn't have done even half the stuff without you guys.

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this is going to be awesome.
thanks for all your hard work on this .
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Not to be nitpicky, but I wanted to mention a couple of ideas I had regarding the planet the Death Star is over. Couldn't the Death Star be over Geonosis seeing as how the Geonosins built it? Another idea I had was it being over Couruscant since it is the Imperial Capital. Let me know what you think of these ideas, adywan.


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I don't know if Couruscant would work since the Death Star is supposed to be a secret project. I would suggest leaving the planet as a Generic planet somewhere out in space. This, to me, would effect the story of Star Wars the least and make the change more about visuals rather than about rewriting the story.

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Good point about the Geonosians building it, Marvolo. I'd forgotten about that.

The blue color looks fantastic, Adywan. It really does. But, the problem is that it's too much like Alderaan. It might be confusing.

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I'll still be bouncing my ideas off you all. I just thought that posting so many clips would probably spoil the whole surprise element of the new edit, plus rendering the clips to post is taking time away that could be better spent on finishing the movie ( its taking hell of a lot longer than i first thought). Everyones input and ideas have been invaluable for this edit and i am very grateful. I couldn't have done even half the stuff without you guys.
I'm glad we've helped! And I understand why you wouldn't post more clips...I just love clips!

I would suggest leaving the planet as a Generic planet somewhere out in space. This, to me, would effect the story of Star Wars the least and make the change more about visuals rather than about rewriting the story.

I think I'm with Dan on this one...but I also agree that it looks similar to Alderaan...not sure if that's really a problem, though...hmm

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Originally posted by: InfoDroid
Good point about the Geonosians building it, Marvolo. I'd forgotten about that.

The blue color looks fantastic, Adywan. It really does. But, the problem is that it's too much like Alderaan. It might be confusing.


I've tried a few different colours & planets and the blue is definately the best. Any other colour just stands out too much with the grey pallet of the death star & ships. I used a plate that had no land mass so it looks more like a water planet than Alderaan.

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Originally posted by: InfoDroid
The blue color looks fantastic, Adywan. It really does. But, the problem is that it's too much like Alderaan. It might be confusing.

I second this. Or "third" it, actually, as SSWR said essentially the same thing.

Any chance of giving the blue a bit of greenish tint and still have the planet NOT stand out while differentiating it from Alderaan?

On a slightly related matter...
Someone said the Geonosians built the Death Star. But Wikipedia said this:
"It was on Geonosis where the plans for the Sith's absolute weapon, the Death Star, were developed. After the Separatist defeat...Darth Tyranus escaped with these plans to Coruscant, where they could be kept in safety. The planet was then occupied by the Republic."

I know that statement doesn't necessarily preclude Geonosis from being the construction site, but I was wondering if information was being misinterpretted (non-EU, non-PT scholar here, so I'm genuinely curious about this).

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Geonosis is a good idea, the D.S construction is secret project(secret plans but once again, it's approach alderaan, so i've took the Star wars space map and geonosis seem to be far far away from alderaan, near from it there is neimodia, i don't know if there is a picture of it ? so it may be in the sens of the story if neimodia is in ANH, and adywan, i've rewatched your sample many times, and again it's really amazing, you've done a great work, after all of this, it will be cool to have some tutos, just let us know how do you do that..what soft do you use etc.. i guess it was frame by frame by frame ....thanks again and MTFBWY
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HOLY CRAPBALLS! That is a great scene!

FE<3OT

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I think Geonosis is a good alternative for the blue planet in the clip. Here's my reasoning.

There are plenty of things in the EU about where/how the Death Star was constructed. But going solely by the movies, we really have no idea. So I suggest going for something that looks cool but doesn't confuse.

Blue looks good, but it is too much like Alderaan.

Yellow/tan is too much like Tatooine.

Red is too much like Yavin.

But red with a ring (Geonosis) is visually different enough so as not be confuse the viewer. For those with a keen eye, this would easily be identified as Geonosis, which is one possible location for the Death Star's construction. Plus, I think it would be REALLY COOL to see a red ringed planet in this shot.

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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Originally posted by: adywan
Originally posted by: InfoDroid
Good point about the Geonosians building it, Marvolo. I'd forgotten about that.

The blue color looks fantastic, Adywan. It really does. But, the problem is that it's too much like Alderaan. It might be confusing.


I've tried a few different colours & planets and the blue is definately the best. Any other colour just stands out too much with the grey pallet of the death star & ships. I used a plate that had no land mass so it looks more like a water planet than Alderaan.


The blue planet from a technical standpoint looks great, but I was confused the first time I watched it thinking it was Alderan as well.

What about a rocky planet with minimal atmosphere... it would be dominately grey tones with maybe dark purple highlights. I think this would work on many levels.

1. I can't think of any plain old rocky planets in the OT or PT so it would be somewhere mysterious.
2. Rocky planet == mining planet... great place to build something big if you can just use the resources nearby
3. (More important) Color scape would match the rest of the movie... Star Wars is dominated mostly with faded earth tones and grays, Empire: blues and reds, Jedi: stong earthtones and green
4. (Most important) It would make the whole scene more imposing. The death star comes from a dark and dead world. It serves as great contrast when we see it approach Alderan.

If you'd like, I can see what I can come up with... there was guy who had a website with a lot of really good planet maps.. his name was 3d-Duckboy/diabloblanco17 but it seems as if his site has gone away but I downloaded the maps many moons ago. Let me know if you are interested.
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Originally posted by: adywan
I've tried a few different colours & planets and the blue is definately the best. Any other colour just stands out too much with the grey pallet of the death star & ships. I used a plate that had no land mass so it looks more like a water planet than Alderaan.

Hmmm...Kamino?

It is a "hidden" system, after all.
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I loved the clip adywan, but I like the idea that dumb_kid had about the DS being in orbit around a rocky almost asteroid like planet. This is an excerpt I found in The Completely Unofficial Star Wars Encyclopedia.

Death Star
this satellite-sized battle station was developed by the Geonosians, under the direction of Darth Tyranus. These plans were later refined by Tol Sivron at the Maw installation, and the battle station was built by Bevel Lemelisk and Imperial Engineering. As the Alliance began to gather support, it was Grand Moff Tarkin who asked for a superweapon with which he could control the entire Outer Rim Territory, and the Death Star was the perfect weapon. It housed a huge superlaser which combined the output of multiple lasers into a single, focused beam. A huge focusing lens was built to accomplish this, located on the upper hemisphere. The superlaser was designed to be targeted at anything from a capital ship to a planet. This objective was known only to a select few, for Tarkin and the Maw's top scientists decided that they should downplay the role of superweapon to keep the project on schedule. In order to ensure continued cooperation of their employees, project engineers were told that the station would be used to break down dead planets, in an effort to reach the core of elements easier.

...According to Imperial sources, the first Death Star took too long to construct, exceeding Palpatine's every deadline. It was built in orbit around the prison world Despayre. Labor for the construction was taken at will from the prison below. When the first Death Star was completed, Tarkin ordered the superlaser tested on the planet Despayre itself. Needless to say, this initial test exceeded even Tarkin's wildest dreams.
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Originally posted by: Rebel11_38

...According to Imperial sources, the first Death Star took too long to construct, exceeding Palpatine's every deadline. It was built in orbit around the prison world Despayre. Labor for the construction was taken at will from the prison below. When the first Death Star was completed, Tarkin ordered the superlaser tested on the planet Despayre itself. Needless to say, this initial test exceeded even Tarkin's wildest dreams.

This is one reason that i am sticking to what is in the "movie" universe and not any EU or other sources. According to the conference room scene Tarkin states that the station is not yet operation and also Tarkin states that they would test the Death Stars destructive powers on Alderaan, so that backstory in the Unofficial Encyclopedia completely contradicts what we know about the Death Star from ANH.

I don't really want to use a known planet for the first Death Star shots. My idea is that it would be in a hidden system where the rebels would not find it. If it was orbiting one of the planets from the PT then it would stand out as a planet that we already know.

I'm not sure that having the planet blue would necessarily confuse people into thinking its Alderaan while watching the complete movie. After all if you look at Alderaan & Yavin 4 they look very similar but we know that they are not the same world. And also Tarkin orders them to set a course for Alderaan so it is determined that it isn't Alderaan. I've altered the blue colour & darkened it slighly but altering it any more towards a different tint just doesn't look right to my eyes. It needs to be in the blue spectrum due to the neutral colours due to the orbiting ships & station. Green is the only other colour that doesn't look too bad but with both Alderaan & Yavin 4 being Green planets then blue is the only colour (apart from an ice planet but thats already been covered by Hoth.lol) that is left. Or is it....... maybe not......
Originally posted by: dumb_kid

What about a rocky planet with minimal atmosphere... it would be dominately grey tones with maybe dark purple highlights. I think this would work on many levels.


I do like that idea, i'd just need to find a really good plate that i could use.
Originally posted by: dumb_kid
If you'd like, I can see what I can come up with... there was guy who had a website with a lot of really good planet maps.. his name was 3d-Duckboy/diabloblanco17 but it seems as if his site has gone away but I downloaded the maps many moons ago. Let me know if you are interested.

I would be intersted in any material you have that you think would help. If it isn't used in ANH then it may be usefull for my other edits.

A dead "grey" planet would be better suited than the water planet. Looking on the net for pics to use just seems to drum up pretty good renders but they all look to "home PC" CG to be used though. Looks like I'm going to look through all my dvds to see what i can dig up.

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