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The Merits of the Prequel Trilogy and the "Saga" — Page 16

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If it has time to detail microsopic bacteria, it has time to detail all powerful energy fields too, yes. If the force has no relevance to TPM, then it shouldn't have been mentioned either.
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You're right. TPM shouldn't have to tell you about the Force since it's already explained in Star Wars. But, uh-oh, that theory only works if you watch Star Wars as the first Star Wars movie (imagine that). If you watch them in numerical order, that means you have to watch the Force in action for three movies without really knowing what it is.

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I don't see why you need that peice of information to watch TPM. Why can't they wait to get that in ANH?

So people aren't all knowing about the Force.

Somehow I think people will be okay.
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Actually people will be bored, confused and just plain uninterested in the star wars story because of the PT's ineptness.
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I think people will get out of it what they are willing to put into it.
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I think they'll get out if it what George Lucas put into it.
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Great, you think the PT is boring and uninspiring.

Why do you think they need to explain the Force from the get go? Why can't it be some mysterious, magical, undefined thing until ANH?
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There's no way to determine that from TPM. Whatever this 'force' is they talk about is just... who knows... Lucas didn't give a fuck about making his story make sense.
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I just think that the Jedi and their use of the Force can be accepted at face value without a verbal explaination until they get to ANH.

It makes plenty of sense without it.

Man, on the one hand I keep hearing how Lucas explained the Force too much in TPM, now he's not explaining it enough?
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what's the force you're talking about? I've only seen tpm.
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Did you notice the part where Qui-Gon explains to Jar-Jar that the Force will guide them?

So at the very least you know that Jedi listen to what they think is "the will of the Force" for their direction.

Right?
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Silly wabbit, I asked you what is the force.
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The Force is what guides a Jedi.
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It's a map?
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Sort of. With time and further episodes, you'll undertsand more.
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I have to wait until the next episodes to understand the whole point of the first three? No thanks. Especially if that jar jar guy is in them.
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Thank goodness. I was afraid I was going to have to explain everything else to you too.
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Like what?

Honestly I'd prefer the movie to explain itself though. Something so significant as the force which is even described as something some microbes or whatever can talk with, could use a little more explaining for us noobz. And I'd rather not have to wait so long to know what I'm watching.
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I thought you were so turned off by TPM's lack of explaination that you were no longer interested.
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And I thought you were interested in addressing 'misconceptions' some may have after watching you idol's masterpieces of shit.
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No I was saying most people will figure it out on their own.

I think that it's pretty self evident that the Jedi religion revolves around the Force, and even if people don't realize that it's the Force that gives the Jedi their special abilities, they will at least understand that it somehow guides Jedi as to it's will through the Midichlorians.
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Midichlorians were worth taking more time to explain than the force that's constantly mentioned throughout the first three movies? That's retarded IMHO.

Why can't midichlorians be some magical undefined thing?
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Just to throw in a perspective outside the duet (or is it duel?) we have going .... yeah, it makes zero sense to watch the prequels first because they presuppose you already know stuff learned in Episode "Four" (e.g., what's The Force?) and - of course - they ruin the great surprise of Episode Five (and yeah, the S.E.'s ruin the great reveal of Episode Six).

So, for those and a zillion other reasons, NEVER exhibit the movies in numerical order to a Star Wars virgin. (Laying aside the fact that making someone wade through 3 bad movies to get to the first good one is a very stupid idea).
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Again, I think TPM supposes that you don't need to know what Ben tells Luke in ANH to follow what's going on in TPM. When they finally get to ANH, they'll hear Ben and remember the previous movies and either go: "I knew it all a long ", or "No shit! ".

I agree that the "I am your father" is ruined for the audience, but I think it still works on a dramatic level to have the surprise be just for Luke. We see that Anakin is Vader in the prequels, then we see Ben flat out lying to Luke about Vader killing Anakin, so after Yoda and Obi-Wan beg Luke not to leave before he is trained because he's not ready and he leaves anyway, we get to that part where Vader tells him the truth and the audience then wonders... Crap, how is Luke going to take being lied to by Obi-Wan? Is he going to be able to still trust his teachings? Is he going to say screw Obi-Wan, he's no better than Vader as Anakin said about Palpatine vs the Jedi?

We don't find out until the next movie, which starts out with Luke dressed up like Evil Anakin in black robes, force choking gammorean guards and telling Jabba not to underestimate his power.

To me this whole dynamic ratchets up the tension quite a bit with the way it all flows now.

Again nothing against the landmark surprise of "I am your father", no doubt that is one of the biggest surprises in cinema history.

But is is a very fleeting surprise.

Now, to keep that surprise, you have to show a first time viewer the classic trilogy first. The problem with that is you lose most of the surprises in the prequels. You know going in that Palpatine is Sidious, you know going in that the Jedi are going to be made all but extinct, you know going in that only Yoda and Ben survive, you know going in that Anakin does not do the right thing in the end, you know going in that Padme won't survive. You know going in that the Republic will become the Emprie. The list goes on and on.

All for one surprise that only works the first time you see it.
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