Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
Wait a minute, Qui-Gon talks about how they speak to you, and tell you the will of the Force, but that's just the way he's looking at it.
It would be the same thing as if he said your ears speak to you, and tell you what sounds are happening around you.
You don't know that. For all you know, Qui-Gon's way of looking at things is the official word of truth in the Star Wars universe.
First, when I said "vaguely" hereditary, I meant that the stories were vague in terms of how it was hereditary. We didn't know how it worked in a hereditary fashion or to what degree it was hereditary.
Second, you cannot say for sure that the "extinction" of Jedi was not mostly due to destruction of their order. Without proper training, how can there be Jedi? There are many possibilities to explain the use of that term.
Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
The Force is still everywhere, it's just living beings have Midichlorians that allow them to commune with "the Force".
Wait a minute, Qui-Gon talks about how they speak to you, and tell you the will of the Force, but that's just the way he's looking at it.
It would be the same thing as if he said your ears speak to you, and tell you what sounds are happening around you.
You don't know that. For all you know, Qui-Gon's way of looking at things is the official word of truth in the Star Wars universe.
Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
There isn't one example in the saga of a midichlorian's sentience on it's own. In fact, the supposition Qui-Gon has that Anakin was created by the Midichlorians is questioned by the idea that Plaguis and or Palpatine may have in fact caused Anakin to be.
If you want to argue that a Sith lord created Anakin, then that's going into really, really stupid territory if you ask me. If Sith lords have the ability to create human beings with immense sensitivity to the force, then the Star Wars universe officially becomes lame for all time.
You don't know that. For all you know, they have very precise data linking force-strength with midiclorian counts and well-tested investigations of the beings. For all you know, science in the Star Wars universe has managed to communicate with intelligent midiclorians.
Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
Also, I don't know how you could say they Force was only vaguely hereditary in the classic trilogy. If it wasn't -very- hereditary, then the Jedi couldn't have been all but wiped out. Force users would be popping up naturally out of the population like a sick game of whack a mole for the Emperor.
There isn't one example in the saga of a midichlorian's sentience on it's own. In fact, the supposition Qui-Gon has that Anakin was created by the Midichlorians is questioned by the idea that Plaguis and or Palpatine may have in fact caused Anakin to be.
If you want to argue that a Sith lord created Anakin, then that's going into really, really stupid territory if you ask me. If Sith lords have the ability to create human beings with immense sensitivity to the force, then the Star Wars universe officially becomes lame for all time.
Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
What's happening is the Jedi noticed a co-relation between powerful force users and higher midichlorian counts.
What's happening is the Jedi noticed a co-relation between powerful force users and higher midichlorian counts.
You don't know that. For all you know, they have very precise data linking force-strength with midiclorian counts and well-tested investigations of the beings. For all you know, science in the Star Wars universe has managed to communicate with intelligent midiclorians.
Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
Also, I don't know how you could say they Force was only vaguely hereditary in the classic trilogy. If it wasn't -very- hereditary, then the Jedi couldn't have been all but wiped out. Force users would be popping up naturally out of the population like a sick game of whack a mole for the Emperor.
First, when I said "vaguely" hereditary, I meant that the stories were vague in terms of how it was hereditary. We didn't know how it worked in a hereditary fashion or to what degree it was hereditary.
Second, you cannot say for sure that the "extinction" of Jedi was not mostly due to destruction of their order. Without proper training, how can there be Jedi? There are many possibilities to explain the use of that term.
Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
The Force is still everywhere, it's just living beings have Midichlorians that allow them to commune with "the Force".
You have no idea. You aren't George Lucas. Only he knows how his ideas work in his own universe. To average people watching his movies though, midichlorians lower the aesthetic value of "the force" concept.