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Post #252518

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What.Cobbler?
Parent topic
Emmet Otter's Jugband Christmas (Complete) - (Released)
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Date created
20-Oct-2006, 3:32 PM
The edits in each version are outlined on this page:

http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/A_Muppet_Family_Christmas

If the title card appears in the opening shot, you've got a Version Two edit. In Version 1, the title card doesn't appear until after the song, superimposed in front of Ma Bear's house (followed by a fade to black for commercial, featuring some extra Muppet noises not on the other versions). Original edits will also fade to black after the Jingle Bell Rock segment. If you have the CBS/ABC version, and intend to use it for a DVD project, I have plenty of extra material that you could use. Here's what my edit would have contained, had the hard drive not crashed last December, making the most complete version possible:

SOURCES:
VHS - original (mono) Maxell VHS SLP recording of the first-ever ABC broadcast (v1)
- more complete than the later broadcast version (v2) seen on NBC & Nickelodeon
DVD - official (stereo) Columbia Tristar DVD edit (v3), itself an edit of the re-edit (v2)
- fed through SVHS system to bypass brightness caused by copy protection
ETC - downloaded 5-second mpeg clip posted on A Muppety Christmas site
- not the best quality, but makes up for the clip missed by the above VHS recording

EDITS:
01) DVD - We Need a Little Christmas intro (I started the VCR late on the no-title open shot)
02) VHS - end of song, title credit
-BREAK 1
03) VHS - Ma Bear w/extra house shot & incidental music
04) DVD - Doc enters, etc
05) VHS - Jingle Bell Rock end/fade
-BREAK 2
06) VHS - Fozzie & Rowlf incidental music
07) DVD - Fozzie & Rowlf scene, etc
08) VHS - Rowlf on piano, snowman song
09) DVD - Fozzie & Kermit, etc
10) VHS - Muppet Babies complete scene
11) DVD - Gonzo & Turkey, Sesame Street carolers, etc
12) VHS - Kermit looks out window
-BREAK 3
13) VHS - Kermit window shot w/title, Ma & Fozzie
14) DVD - Oscar & Rizzo, Doc searches for Piggy, etc
15) VHS - Home for the Holidays, Piggy's icy patch
-BREAK 4
16) ETC - Fozzie & Elmo light the tree
17) VHS - Ma's announcement, with incidental music
18) DVD - Gonzo & Animal in closet, medley pt1
19) VHS - medley pt2 (Have Yourself a Merry Little Xmas)
20) DVD - medley pt3 (Christmas Bells)
21) VHS - medley pt4 (I Heard the Bells on Xmas Day)
22) DVD - medley pt5 (last two songs)
23) VHS - end of medley, fade to black
-BREAK 5
24) VHS - Fozzie's stocking, Piggy's mink (w/incidental)
25) DVD - Robin & Grover, Jim & Sprocket, credits
TOTAL RUNNING TIME: 47+ minutes

BONUS FEATURES:
* Michael Eisner & Kermit intro (from NBC v2 rebroadcast)
* Playskool sponsor bumper (ABC)
* silent title bumper (ABC)
* Toys R Us sponsor bumper (ABC)
* Kermit bumper (A Muppety Christmas site)
* original end credits (ABC w/original copyright title)
* revised end credits (NBC w/different font & Disney logo)

Woulda been neat, huh? Maybe someday, since I still have my sources....

EDIT: Of course, if someone recorded an entire Version 1 broadcast, complete with commercials, they could just put *that* onto a DVD, not worrying about cutting back and forth between the VHS and DVD-quality footage. This is because Muppet Family Christmas (unlike with Emmet Otter) Version 1 has *everything*, and Version 2 has only exclusions, not additions.