Originally posted by: Wesyeed

Originally posted by: garethxxgod
call me a slob if you will, but I'm with Peter Griffin.....I just did not care much for the Godfather films.

I haven't seen Dr. Strangelove but my brother says it's highly overrated. Kubrick has been hit and miss with me, I like Clockwork Orange and The Shining but I hate 2001: A Space Oddessy well....since those are the only movies of his I've seen I guess I shouldn't really comment.

I know I'm really late for this discussion also, but correct me if this has already been stated. Wasn't the use of Midiclorians a way of determining how well a Jedi could use the force? I have to ask, how would they have determined how one was powerful in the force without an example? Would they have just "known"? Would it have been an instinctual thing? Midiclorians was one of those things I never really bothered about and never knew it was such a problem till I heard people complaining about it on the net, however even if not completely accurate wouldn't that be a better way to get an approximation of ones abilities with the Force? I mean "feeling" one is powerful is one thing, but it still doesn't let you KNOW how powerful they are. That to me doesn't really take away from the mystism of the Jedi Knights.

It makes jedi potential quantifiable. It's basically going against everything yoda said in ESB "size matter not"

why can't people fuoking see this?

Typical Gomer PT-gush response in 3... 2... 1...

But Jedi expand their horizons all the time. Just because a Midiclorian count says a Jedi has x amount of pull with the Force doesn't mean that that will stay that way forever or they will only get to a certain point of being able to manipulate the force. I like to believe that Jedi are only limited by how much they are willing to learn. Surely the nature of learning techniques and mastery of the force is not limited to your Midiclorian count, it's just a counter to even determine if a certain person even has the ability with the Force. If the force didn't have any ties to nature and was just a mystical energy force that just happened to appear out of nowhere, woudn't it effect everything? Wouldn't everyone be Force Sensitive?

The fact that nature surrounds it, penetrates it, makes life grow should indicate that SOMETHING has to manipulate the force and connect those who can hear the will of the force with the world around him. You could almost say that in a way the Midiclorians are like a disease and will only effect those who have certain parentage but like Anakin there is always that anomoly. Like the world the way some people are just born different. I mean how do we determine where disease come from? People study it right? I mean where does disease come from in our real world? Someone had to discover this intangible nothingness down to a science or atleast something that you can see within the blood stream or life being of that person. The Midiclorian count is taking something that is attached to a mystified ancient order and understanding how "the universe binds it together". Like most mysteries we are given the how, but never the why.

Now the Midiclorian use in the first film was only to help demonstrate how powerful with the Force Anakin really could become, nothing more really. It helps determine that he IS the Chosen One. You must see it (sorry had to throw that in there). I know the Chosen One Prophecy is pretty much looked down upon by those who don't really like the Prequels or even buy that part of the story but again that's really the only reason the Midiclorian count was used in the film. Obviously we disagree which is fine, but I'd like to hear your thoughs....and please be constructive.....I'm not going to be like a "typical gusher" and say you are wrong or anything you have to say doesn't have merit. Believe me with just the one line I atleast had to think about my response and how it made sense to myself. Take it easy.