Originally posted by: Jumpman
CO,
The whole moral of the Saga doesn't change because Hayden represents Anakin at the end of Episode VI. It's still there. It's like having a dual personality, if you really want to get simple with it.
I believe the man Padme loved died in Episode III. I believe the man that destroyed the Emperor is the man Luke sees (when he takes of the helmet) but also the man as he once was....
Because the Jedi are the only ones who know of this power, isn't it possible to accept Anakin AS HE WAS when he was a Jedi and not when he was Sith? It's as if the Jedi and the Force granted Anakin special circumstances. That still doesn't change the fact that Anakin paid dearly for his mistakes in the past. He's not off the hook by any means...but he does stop the horror that he started and for that, he gets to become as he WAS...not what he had become....
CO,
The whole moral of the Saga doesn't change because Hayden represents Anakin at the end of Episode VI. It's still there. It's like having a dual personality, if you really want to get simple with it.
I believe the man Padme loved died in Episode III. I believe the man that destroyed the Emperor is the man Luke sees (when he takes of the helmet) but also the man as he once was....
Because the Jedi are the only ones who know of this power, isn't it possible to accept Anakin AS HE WAS when he was a Jedi and not when he was Sith? It's as if the Jedi and the Force granted Anakin special circumstances. That still doesn't change the fact that Anakin paid dearly for his mistakes in the past. He's not off the hook by any means...but he does stop the horror that he started and for that, he gets to become as he WAS...not what he had become....
But what you don't understand that the man who was the sith for 20 years is the one who saved Luke & Fullfilled the prophecy, and that is what a strong image Shaw gives off at the end. Forget what we prefer, lets just look at logic. The thing about Darth Vader, and the whole moral of ROTJ is that even though Vader is this evil twisted man there is this OUNCE of goodness somewhere in him that does all these good things at the end to save his son. So the person never changed, he was still there all these years, or he wouldn't have been conflicted in ROTJ as Vader is during the whole movie. The reason he is conflicted is he is still Anakin Skywalker, and it is Luke that is making him realize that man never died. Seeing old Anakin confirms a true character arc for EVERYTHING he did, his love, his hate, his compassion, his sins, all of that is there with Shaw the character, but putting Hayden there you are throwing away 20 years of what that man did, including the end of ROTJ when he redeemed himself.