Laserman:
It is about taking the movie that was actually made and fixing some errors - and even that only *after* a straight untouched preservation is completed.
I understand, I just feel that a lot of members here are now seeing the retouched version as being of more value than the un-retouched preservation.
Laserman:
As far as the DC version of the discs go, it has now been madde somewhat obselete by the release of the GOUT, although it didn't preserve the opening crawl from the laserdisc version.
No, it was better. But I can understand if you want the ANH crawl in there... after all we've all gotten used to it for so long.
Laserman:
As presevation goes though, if you stop at that point, you have only preserved the laserdisc, not the experience of seeing the film, or in effect the film itself.
You seem to be agreeing with me; unless you're trying to create a greater experience?
Laserman:
What I mean by that is the laserdisc has artifacts that were not in the film, or at least not in a good first run print of the film, it has the DVNR, has lots of dust and scratches, droputs and film damage that is not going to be on the negs or a first run print.
People might think cleaning up the film damage is somehow 'not original' but every film print struck will have differences.
True, but that's not the same as special effects compositing. Most of Lucas' changes (and lets face it, only a couple like Greedo firing his gun actually make a difference to the story) are just trying to upgrade the effects in the movies. In actual fact, it may well have been more exciting in cinemas to have Greedo and Han have their shootout ... but that's not what was done in 1977. You could just as easily take the Special Edition - and keep 90% of the new effects (and possibly more) without modifying the story, if you so wanted. I'm just making a point, I'm not defending the SE ...
Laserman:
Quick question.
If you don't agree with people going through a film and creating a fan edit or fixing glitches etc. what is your interest in visiting the "fan edits" forums?
Well they don't call it restoration for a start, they call it a fan edit. Let's get one thing straight - I don't care what you do with your edit ... I just don't understand why people think your edit is closer to the OUT than the OUT. We seem to be talking about different things.
Laserman
There was no reason for an NTSC owner to really want PAL capability back then either, their TVs wouldn't cope with it and there were very very very few titles that got a true PAL release anyway.
However, the Star Wars Trilogy was one of those very very very few titles that got a true PAL release, ironic isn't it?
Anyway, I'm not attacking the X0 project. How many different LD releases did you use for it again?