Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
I agree. I mean, I love looking at the sequels in context of Vader's redemption, but the star always is Luke throughout all three of them. The goals that have to be accomplished, whether defeating the Empire as a whole or saving Vader, they're all Luke's goals that we're taken along for. What bugs me most about the 1-6 mentality is that the original movies simply don't fit that mold. You can tie the sequels to the original movie because the motivations in all three are Luke's. You have to do a lot of mental stretching to believe that the original movies are Anakin's story as well as the prequels.
I agree. I mean, I love looking at the sequels in context of Vader's redemption, but the star always is Luke throughout all three of them. The goals that have to be accomplished, whether defeating the Empire as a whole or saving Vader, they're all Luke's goals that we're taken along for. What bugs me most about the 1-6 mentality is that the original movies simply don't fit that mold. You can tie the sequels to the original movie because the motivations in all three are Luke's. You have to do a lot of mental stretching to believe that the original movies are Anakin's story as well as the prequels.
Exactly, and that is why I never had a problem as an OT fan even though SW '77 was my favorite movie of all-time. ESB & ROTJ enriched SW '77, but they didn't change it the overall story, even though Lucas fudged a couple of family members in there!
My point was Lucas never changed SW '77 to fit ESB & ROTJ, he wrote ESB & ROTJ to fit SW '77, and tried to work around the new plot points like Vader being Lukes father, and Leia being Lukes sister. The worst thing he could have done was go back and reshoot some scenes in SW '77 like Kenobi/Luke conversation, cause that would have probably turned me off from being an OT fans and I probably would have stayed a SW '77 fan.
I like that the OT enriches the basic SW '77 movie, and I really do think the patchwork making it on the fly story Lucas eventually ended up with in 1983 is pretty good. It flows well, it keeps its basic message from 1977, and gives you closure.
The problem with the PT movies, putting asides its faults, is the story doesn't enrich the OT, but it fucking changes it! Lucas has said in past interviews he wanted fans to look at the OT in a whole different way after the PT, and that is just wrong. There is nothing wrong with looking at certain aspects that the PT fleshes out that enriches the OT, but the basic premise of the tragedy of Anakin Skywalker now for 6 movies really does an injustice to 4-6. Not only did Lucas put out average PT movies that only a niche audience really loves, but he has fucked up the OT now, so any newcomer will watch it out context.