Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
I wasn't really offended by boris' line.
But anyway, everyone here has pretty much summed up my feelings on this matter. It is a pretty weird thing and has some ambiguity to it. But they did manage to get through it without falling afoul of anything Yoda warned about. I also find it weird that Yoda is so eager for Luke to face Vader the second time around. I mean, how could Luke's self-training in that year make him so much different in between the two movies?
Originally posted by: boris
Geez, boris, harsh. It's a perfectly good question and not the first time Yoda's actions and lines in ESB have been debated. So chill out.
Originally posted by: JamesEightBitStar
So really, what's with Yoda's warning? Do you honestly not understand the plot?
So really, what's with Yoda's warning? Do you honestly not understand the plot?
Geez, boris, harsh. It's a perfectly good question and not the first time Yoda's actions and lines in ESB have been debated. So chill out.
I wasn't really offended by boris' line.
But anyway, everyone here has pretty much summed up my feelings on this matter. It is a pretty weird thing and has some ambiguity to it. But they did manage to get through it without falling afoul of anything Yoda warned about. I also find it weird that Yoda is so eager for Luke to face Vader the second time around. I mean, how could Luke's self-training in that year make him so much different in between the two movies?
Actually, Yoda's reversal of stance makes sense to me, if we go with the idea that he was afraid of Luke finding out that Vader was his father and thus, either being destroyed or turning to the Dark Side. By the time ROTJ comes around, Luke's been dealing with that knowledge for a year. Remember also that Darth Vader was turned by hatred, anger, and a desire for power. By this point it's proven that Luke has none of these things--he cares not about greatness or control, he merely wants to protect people and try to bring his father back to the good side. Neither the emperor nor Darth Vader had any hope of turning him to the dark side. Even if Luke HAD given into his anger and killed both the Emperor and Darth Vader, he would've immediately regretted it and spent the rest of his life trying to make up for his sin (either that or commit seppuku).