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Post #250193

Author
Jaiman Tuckuh
Parent topic
Idea: Preserving STAR TREK - a preservation project?
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Date created
7-Oct-2006, 3:37 PM
I've been wanting to bring this up for ages. Including a couple of things that I want for my own edits, actually. But I haven't had time to get much done, I was going to do a couple of things before I brought it up.

There's so much out there to preserve, too! There are various utils that supposedly snag videos off of Youtube, for example, without recording and converting them (without recompression loss). But the one I that I've tried didn't work.

I don't have any knowledge about game ripping, tho'. Let's not forget the actor's voices in games, either. I finally got the enhanced versions of the 25th Anniversary game, the sound file converter claimed it wasn't that company's weird format - even tho' the format is listed in the file header. Sounds awful on my Win98 machine, I'm sure it sounds better in Dos (haven't tried yet), but I don't know how to capture it digitally, from Dos, without recording it off the soundcard. (Yes, this subject has come up before, for other games, without an answer).

I've heard of that STV MST3K, but haven't found it. I've got all kinds of crap on VHS (usually stumbled on it when I was at low speed), and I've been meaning to get a time base corrector. But I haven't had the hdd room to capture any of it. All of it is snowy & staticy, of course, despite paying all that money for cable.

There's leaked deleted scenes that are basically unwatchable & un-listenable. I got some that were leaked for Generations (and left off of the dvd extras - of course the ones in the extras have timecodes and copywrite notices destroying them, and they are letterboxed). A pay-cable channel (apparently Showtime) used to run an ad with some deleted scenes from Wrath of Khan - also not in the DVD extras - one guy did a cap from his horrible tape, then compressed it down to nothing---

There's long-OOP LPs, unique LDs, various sources of bloopers, Electronic Press Kits... quite a list, when you think about it. Those Bonus Discs (Best Buy, perhaps Walmart). Scripts! Those scripts that they don't seem to sell copies of anymore. (I got burned by a guy who was supposedly selling his spare scripts. I tried to buy unused Phase II scripts, and some early versions). There's a need to preserve the original TOS series mono audio. The DVDs added inappropriate sound effects to the bridge hum. The TOS LDs didn't have a digital audio track - but the expensive Japanese sets did... There's the temporarily-changed song in City on the Edge of Forever. The open-matte version of the ST6 movie - only on LD.

I'll do whatever I can, as I get time (if?), and I'll probably go into more detail, if RealLife ever lightens up on me. There's stuff I might send off to people with skills and equipement, if I don't get said skills and equipment myself...


Edit: Retraction: The following turns out to be wrong:
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"Heck, there used to be a debate about whether Kelsey Grammer's voice was in First Contact, as the captain of the Bozeman - until a guy pointed out that none of the captians replied. But I distinctly remembered hearing a reply in the theater--- wasn't on the DVD--- but its on the HD version! Muuuwahahahahaaaa!"
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I went back to clip the audio--- and it wasn't there... I don't get it... There is a Grammer-live voice earlier, aknowledging when the Defiant and Bozeman are ordered to fall back to position 3, but that's audible on the DVD. I've can't think of any other version it could've been on. I thought that VLC was playing tricks, so I ripped the audio to 6 wav files - nothing. PowerDvd started playing the DVD from the point I had been comparing to the HD... so I know I didn't swap places with a counterpart from a different timeline...

Maybe Paramont broke in and replaced the disc?

Anyway, I don't want to be the source of misinformation. So it's better to retract it than delete it.