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Originally posted by: boris
I'm posting here as a critic. The project does have some fantastic points about it, don't get me wrong... I just don't think it would be worth it to me to spend as much time as you 4 have preparing a preservation which is only going to be slightly better then the retail release, at best.
I'm posting here as a critic. The project does have some fantastic points about it, don't get me wrong... I just don't think it would be worth it to me to spend as much time as you 4 have preparing a preservation which is only going to be slightly better then the retail release, at best.
What are you trying to accomplish here exactly? You're posting for no other reason than to get under the forum's collective skin. Honestly - "Posting in the thread as a critic." Do you realize how fucking stupid that sounds? This is a thread catered to a specific fan-based preservation, if you're not interested in supporting it there are plenty of other threads in this forum you can use to occupy your [clearly] precious time. The only person interested in hearing your feelings regarding the X0 Project is yourself, you do realize this - right? You're like a confused, obnoxious parrot.
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Boris may throw out the occasional statement that isn't worded as well as it could be. But I personally believe that anything worthwhile should be able to stand up to criticism. If someone questions the validity of the X0 project, the response should be to address those concerns, not ban the guy.
You know of the rebellion against the Empire?
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Originally posted by: Stinky-Dinkins
What are you trying to accomplish here exactly? You're posting for no other reason than to get under the forum's collective skin. I think you'll find it's not I who encourages flaming. In fact, I avoid flaming. Now you're going to go on about my moral high-horse, or flame me for some other reason. If flaming is the marks of a troll - then I could name a few trolls here. Flaming, is not constructive. I mean; you're welcome to call my posts shit, and to call me a troll and to say I'm stupid. I don't resort to doing that when arguing here, as I'm sure you can appreciate.
The only person interested in hearing your feelings regarding the X0 Project is yourself, you do realize this - right? You're like a confused, obnoxious parrot.
So what you're saying is that you only want to see posts in this thread that agree with your point of view? What are you trying to accomplish here exactly? You're posting for no other reason than to get under the forum's collective skin. I think you'll find it's not I who encourages flaming. In fact, I avoid flaming. Now you're going to go on about my moral high-horse, or flame me for some other reason. If flaming is the marks of a troll - then I could name a few trolls here. Flaming, is not constructive. I mean; you're welcome to call my posts shit, and to call me a troll and to say I'm stupid. I don't resort to doing that when arguing here, as I'm sure you can appreciate.
Originally posted by: Stinky-Dinkins
Honestly - "Posting in the thread as a critic." Do you realize how fucking stupid that sounds? Well, maybe to you it does sound stupid. Everyone has their critics. Do you know how stupid it sounds to me when I hear "I hate Lucas" or "I don't want to give Lucas my money"? Isn't it funny how they use the term "Muslim Extremist" these days to refer to Muslim Terrorists. Now I'm not a Muslim, but it seems to me that a Muslim can have extreme faith without being a terrorist? Just using that term has opened up the door to call all Muslims with rich faith terrorists.
A lot of you are also blind to the fact of the kind of "fans" you've become. OK, I don't like the special editions either, so I can understand being a fan of the OOT... I consider myself a to be one.
But you also seem to assume you have other beliefs in common as well:
1. That as OOT fans, you hate the Prequels.
2. That as OOT fans, you hate Lucas.
3. That as OOT fans, you hate the SE's.
I don't see what any of these 3 points have to do with being an OOT fan. I do hate the SE's myself... but I don't see it as being the reason I'm an OOT fan... you could well be an OOT fan and a SE fan. And it doesn't just end there either, a lot of forum members here want it *their way*. Now for fan-edits, I can understand this... it is interesting to see fan edits. But it's not ... it's a case of "we should have it our way. Grain removed, matte lines and boxes removed, the orange blob under the speeder fixed, all optical composite replaced with digital ones... the sound up-mixed to 5.1 like they did for the SE"...
Which is why I understand when Lucas said that there are Extreme fans who want it their way, but he made it and wants to have it his way. So sure, my posts may well sound stupid to you. There's a lot that sound stupid to me.Originally posted by: Stinky-Dinkins
This is a thread catered to a specific fan-based preservation, if you're not interested in supporting it there are plenty of other threads in this forum you can use to occupy your [clearly] precious time.
And there's plenty of things you could do to occupy your precious time too. Are you flaming me for the ways in which I choose to spend my time?Originally posted by: Stinky-DinkinsHonestly - "Posting in the thread as a critic." Do you realize how fucking stupid that sounds? Well, maybe to you it does sound stupid. Everyone has their critics. Do you know how stupid it sounds to me when I hear "I hate Lucas" or "I don't want to give Lucas my money"? Isn't it funny how they use the term "Muslim Extremist" these days to refer to Muslim Terrorists. Now I'm not a Muslim, but it seems to me that a Muslim can have extreme faith without being a terrorist? Just using that term has opened up the door to call all Muslims with rich faith terrorists.
A lot of you are also blind to the fact of the kind of "fans" you've become. OK, I don't like the special editions either, so I can understand being a fan of the OOT... I consider myself a to be one.
But you also seem to assume you have other beliefs in common as well:
1. That as OOT fans, you hate the Prequels.
2. That as OOT fans, you hate Lucas.
3. That as OOT fans, you hate the SE's.
I don't see what any of these 3 points have to do with being an OOT fan. I do hate the SE's myself... but I don't see it as being the reason I'm an OOT fan... you could well be an OOT fan and a SE fan. And it doesn't just end there either, a lot of forum members here want it *their way*. Now for fan-edits, I can understand this... it is interesting to see fan edits. But it's not ... it's a case of "we should have it our way. Grain removed, matte lines and boxes removed, the orange blob under the speeder fixed, all optical composite replaced with digital ones... the sound up-mixed to 5.1 like they did for the SE"...
Which is why I understand when Lucas said that there are Extreme fans who want it their way, but he made it and wants to have it his way. So sure, my posts may well sound stupid to you. There's a lot that sound stupid to me.Originally posted by: Stinky-Dinkins
This is a thread catered to a specific fan-based preservation, if you're not interested in supporting it there are plenty of other threads in this forum you can use to occupy your [clearly] precious time.
The only person interested in hearing your feelings regarding the X0 Project is yourself, you do realize this - right? You're like a confused, obnoxious parrot.
PS: please continue this discussion at my thread, rather than this thread:
http://www.originaltrilogy.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=6&threadid=6717
<blockquote>Originally posted by: BadAssKeith
You are passing up on a great opportunity to makes lots of money,
make Lucas lose a lot of his money
and make him look bad to the entire world
and you could be well known and liked
None of us here like Lucas or Lucasfilm.
I have death wishes on Lucas and Macullum.
we could all probably get 10s of thousands of dollars!
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Originally posted by: boris
What I find disturbing is the fact that so many people here intend to freeload off the X0 project as an alternative to LD's/DVD's. And the fact I can't even post in fun anymore without being told I'm a troll.
I know you're saying that you're cleaning up the video frame-by-frame, however Lucasfilm did this in 1993, and *most* of what you're cleaning up is LD defects, rather than film defects.
No actually Lucasfilm didn't do any kind of frame by frame cleanup for the 1993 laserdisc release - that is obvious from watching them.
And no, most of the defects we are cleaning up are film problems (dirt, dust flecks, scratches, splices, cue dots, film burn). We are cleaning up the laserdisc problems as well while we are there.
I don't think I have ever tried to mislead, I try to be as honest and thorough as possible, but I certainly don't know all the answers and can and do get things wrong just like anyone else.
At a first look the 'original crawl' looked suspiciously CG to me, the text looked far too clean and the gate weave looked far too pronounced. I didn't know for sure, but it really didn't look right, that is why I asked a question rather than making a statement. I believe I said something like 'is it just me or does the original crawl look CG' (I can't find the exact post). I was looking for other opinions and trying to find out if anyone knew the answer for sure.
If anything I keep trying to play down the quality expectations of people, I have plenty of posts here telling people to keep their expectations reasonable . I'll say it again, it sure aint gonna look like a HDTV presentation, most of our sources are laserdiscs, but I now know it will be noticably better than the GOUT as some of our sources are better quality than it at the outset, and with cleanup and correction get better still.
Originally posted by: boris
Zion says it's like a hobby for him, so fair enough. But if you, Laserman, are investing thousands of hours and blood sweat and tears to produce something that may at the very very best - be marginally better then the OUT - then I think you really have lost grip on reality. To spend so much time, and so much effort, for so little to me seems futile.
I have a lot of respect for you Laserman, and for Zion, and for mverta. You are all fantastic people, so please don't act as if I'm here throwing insults.. it is not my intention.
What I find disturbing is the fact that so many people here intend to freeload off the X0 project as an alternative to LD's/DVD's. And the fact I can't even post in fun anymore without being told I'm a troll.
I know you're saying that you're cleaning up the video frame-by-frame, however Lucasfilm did this in 1993, and *most* of what you're cleaning up is LD defects, rather than film defects.
No actually Lucasfilm didn't do any kind of frame by frame cleanup for the 1993 laserdisc release - that is obvious from watching them.
And no, most of the defects we are cleaning up are film problems (dirt, dust flecks, scratches, splices, cue dots, film burn). We are cleaning up the laserdisc problems as well while we are there.
Originally posted by: boris
Yes I'm a critic of this project, I don't think it's a bad project or anything - but I just think that a lot of forum members here are:
1. seeing it as an alternative to the OUT rather than a preservation...
and/or
2. seeing it as being much better then the OUT.
I'm posting here as a critic. The project does have some fantastic points about it, don't get me wrong... I just don't think it would be worth it to me to spend as much time as you 4 have preparing a preservation which is only going to be slightly better then the retail release, at best.
I think we constantly make it clear that this is a restoration effort, not a commercial product to buy instead of the GOUT - I don't think anyone is honestly confused about that.
I also see it as quite a reasonable step up in quality from the GOUT. I wasn't sure it would be when the GOUT was announced, I really hoped what they released would absolutely trounce what we were working on, but now that is out I know it isn't the case.
I've got no problem with criticism, I welcome it wholeheartedly. Many members here have pointed out things we missed, offered up ideas we hadn't thought of, and questioned in a constructive way some of the decisions we have made. This in turn has resulted in quite a few changes in direction for us. If not for the criticism in this forum, the X0 project would have been a straight transfer from the definitive set with some cleanup done. It now has turned into a full blown restoration effort pulling in as many sources as possible to bypass the shortcomings of the Definitive LDs.
In short, criticism is welcome, poking fun is welcome, but stuff that doesn't add anything to the discussion, or is totally made up just messes up the threads.
Originally posted by: boris
I also think sometimes, you guys are misleading people about the X0 project's quality. I mean, wasn't it you who said the OUT '77 crawl was recreated using CG? AND mverta? I know you guys didn't start the controversy, but still...
Yes I'm a critic of this project, I don't think it's a bad project or anything - but I just think that a lot of forum members here are:
1. seeing it as an alternative to the OUT rather than a preservation...
and/or
2. seeing it as being much better then the OUT.
I'm posting here as a critic. The project does have some fantastic points about it, don't get me wrong... I just don't think it would be worth it to me to spend as much time as you 4 have preparing a preservation which is only going to be slightly better then the retail release, at best.
I think we constantly make it clear that this is a restoration effort, not a commercial product to buy instead of the GOUT - I don't think anyone is honestly confused about that.
I also see it as quite a reasonable step up in quality from the GOUT. I wasn't sure it would be when the GOUT was announced, I really hoped what they released would absolutely trounce what we were working on, but now that is out I know it isn't the case.
I've got no problem with criticism, I welcome it wholeheartedly. Many members here have pointed out things we missed, offered up ideas we hadn't thought of, and questioned in a constructive way some of the decisions we have made. This in turn has resulted in quite a few changes in direction for us. If not for the criticism in this forum, the X0 project would have been a straight transfer from the definitive set with some cleanup done. It now has turned into a full blown restoration effort pulling in as many sources as possible to bypass the shortcomings of the Definitive LDs.
In short, criticism is welcome, poking fun is welcome, but stuff that doesn't add anything to the discussion, or is totally made up just messes up the threads.
Originally posted by: boris
I also think sometimes, you guys are misleading people about the X0 project's quality. I mean, wasn't it you who said the OUT '77 crawl was recreated using CG? AND mverta? I know you guys didn't start the controversy, but still...
I don't think I have ever tried to mislead, I try to be as honest and thorough as possible, but I certainly don't know all the answers and can and do get things wrong just like anyone else.
At a first look the 'original crawl' looked suspiciously CG to me, the text looked far too clean and the gate weave looked far too pronounced. I didn't know for sure, but it really didn't look right, that is why I asked a question rather than making a statement. I believe I said something like 'is it just me or does the original crawl look CG' (I can't find the exact post). I was looking for other opinions and trying to find out if anyone knew the answer for sure.
If anything I keep trying to play down the quality expectations of people, I have plenty of posts here telling people to keep their expectations reasonable . I'll say it again, it sure aint gonna look like a HDTV presentation, most of our sources are laserdiscs, but I now know it will be noticably better than the GOUT as some of our sources are better quality than it at the outset, and with cleanup and correction get better still.
Originally posted by: boris
Zion says it's like a hobby for him, so fair enough. But if you, Laserman, are investing thousands of hours and blood sweat and tears to produce something that may at the very very best - be marginally better then the OUT - then I think you really have lost grip on reality. To spend so much time, and so much effort, for so little to me seems futile.
I have a lot of respect for you Laserman, and for Zion, and for mverta. You are all fantastic people, so please don't act as if I'm here throwing insults.. it is not my intention.
Well seeing no insults are being thrown, I guess I'll take having lost my grip on reality as a compliment then
Seriously though I've got no problem with your opinion or anyone elses that I am wasting my time, but I don't see that as particularly constructive to the threads, or adds to the discussion in a valuable way - but hey you are free to post it. I'd prefer it if people didn't just make stuff up, or argue that black is white, but that is the nature of public forums.
To spend so much time for so little?
Star Wars quite literally changed the path of my life. It set me on a career path that brought me a lot of joy and success. Had that movie not existed I don't know what profession I would have ended up in, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have been as fulfilling as my time spent working in film. It created entire communities, and much to my surprise when I was literally in my darkest hour, this community right here reached out to me and helped me back up again. The influence of this movie on my life and others extends far past the film itself.
It is one of the most important films of all time, it changed film making completely (for better or worse) and enthralled and entertained a good part of the world.
For a film of such importance, there is no good quality copy of the film as it was, or even close to the way it was released outside of a film institute, and even then are only achived on film which degrades over time (I do not know if they have made digital archives of the prints they received or not - it is possible they have, but I do not know). I cannot think of another imprtant film, or artwork where this is the case, it really does boggle the mind.
I feel this is wrong, and that such a groundbreaking and historically important film deserves to be preserved, the laserdiscs won't last forever, by bringing what is publicly available into the digital realm, combining them to be the best and closest to original version possible, then at least there will be one version that will not degrade over time.
It is my way of giving back to something that gave a lot to me.
If I knew how much work it was going to be at the start I never would have started in all likelyhood. I've thought of giving it up many a time. If I thought the result would only be marginally better than the GOUT I would probably just keep the X0 transfer itself and give it up now.
I think the end result however will be worth the effort and considerably better than the GOUT, the removal of the ghosts and trails alone would make it worth it to me to continue.
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Just for the record, I don't hate Lucas, I don't hate the SEs (although parts of them drive me nuts), but I don't enjoy them either.
I don't hate the prequels, but was very disappointed with them.
I am highly disappointed with the GOUT release, I always think if you are going to actually do something then you do it properly. If you are going to release the OUT then at least do a new telecine of it with current technology and make it an anamorphic release just the way any other major film from the 70s has been treated on DVD.
Matte lines, corrections soundtracks etc. are all open for personal preference, but doing a direct dump of a 1993 laserdisc master tape is just a poor effort.
The film deserved at least the same treatment that a standard film to DVD transfer gets.
I think it is pretty clear where I stand on all this stuff anyway, so I'm not going to go on about it any more here. If someone wants to start up a 'philosophy of the SW fan' thread then I'll chat there if I get time.
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Originally posted by: Laserman
To spend so much time for so little?
Star Wars quite literally changed the path of my life. It set me on a career path that brought me a lot of joy and success. Had that movie not existed I don't know what profession I would have ended up in, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have been as fulfilling as my time spent working in film. It created entire communities, and much to my surprise when I was literally in my darkest hour, this community right here reached out to me and helped me back up again. The influence of this movie on my life and others extends far past the film itself.
It is one of the most important films of all time, it changed film making completely (for better or worse) and enthralled and entertained a good part of the world.
To spend so much time for so little?
Star Wars quite literally changed the path of my life. It set me on a career path that brought me a lot of joy and success. Had that movie not existed I don't know what profession I would have ended up in, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have been as fulfilling as my time spent working in film. It created entire communities, and much to my surprise when I was literally in my darkest hour, this community right here reached out to me and helped me back up again. The influence of this movie on my life and others extends far past the film itself.
It is one of the most important films of all time, it changed film making completely (for better or worse) and enthralled and entertained a good part of the world.
This quote proves that Star Wars is more than a film, it is a life style and it is a great one.
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I applaud the concept of preserving the best LD possible, but I think we are all primarily interested in preserving the original Movie, as opposed to preserving a particular media (LD/DVD/VHS/reel/etc). You are such a talented crew on the XØ Project, I am mildly concerned that strictly limiting your focus to the XØ LD transfer may no longer be the best strategy, as far as restoring the original movie is concerned, not to mention it is an extremely time consuming and tedious approach. Are you guys primarily concerned with restoring/preserving the Movie (regardless of source media) or are you more interested in preserving the LD (even if you recognize it is not the best way to produce the highest quality restoration of the movie)?
Thanks again for your great efforts. I hope they are spent in the most efficacious manner.
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We are hoping to get some screenshots and video clips of this process up soon.
My Projects:
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[X0 Project]
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Btw, may I suggest that XØ Project place at the top of their work list the scenes that have been altered in the SE, for example the Greedo shooting scene, the end of ROTJ, etc. This way, in the unlikely event that the XØ Project dissolves before completing all three movies, at least it will have produced clips of the original movies that are most needed for possible insertion into other projects (see my "Dream Project" above - Rune's type project would need polished clips of the "un-SE" version of the scenes Lucas has tampered with).
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Originally posted by: Byakko
Zion, I'm very interested in the Avisynth side of the XØ Project. Which filters are you guys using?
Zion, I'm very interested in the Avisynth side of the XØ Project. Which filters are you guys using?
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Originally posted by: Dufusyte
Gentlemen of the XØ Project, I would be interested in your thoughts on this approach. My dream project would be to record the SE version being televised this November in HD, then color correct it using the GOUT, and for frames where the SE is divergent (extra cg critters etc), use restored frames from the LD or GOUT (which ever cleaned up better).
I applaud the concept of preserving the best LD possible, but I think we are all primarily interested in preserving the original Movie, as opposed to preserving a particular media (LD/DVD/VHS/reel/etc). You are such a talented crew on the XØ Project, I am mildly concerned that strictly limiting your focus to the XØ LD transfer may no longer be the best strategy, as far as restoring the original movie is concerned, not to mention it is an extremely time consuming and tedious approach. Are you guys primarily concerned with restoring/preserving the Movie (regardless of source media) or are you more interested in preserving the LD (even if you recognize it is not the best way to produce the highest quality restoration of the movie)?
Thanks again for your great efforts. I hope they are spent in the most efficacious manner.
Gentlemen of the XØ Project, I would be interested in your thoughts on this approach. My dream project would be to record the SE version being televised this November in HD, then color correct it using the GOUT, and for frames where the SE is divergent (extra cg critters etc), use restored frames from the LD or GOUT (which ever cleaned up better).
I applaud the concept of preserving the best LD possible, but I think we are all primarily interested in preserving the original Movie, as opposed to preserving a particular media (LD/DVD/VHS/reel/etc). You are such a talented crew on the XØ Project, I am mildly concerned that strictly limiting your focus to the XØ LD transfer may no longer be the best strategy, as far as restoring the original movie is concerned, not to mention it is an extremely time consuming and tedious approach. Are you guys primarily concerned with restoring/preserving the Movie (regardless of source media) or are you more interested in preserving the LD (even if you recognize it is not the best way to produce the highest quality restoration of the movie)?
Thanks again for your great efforts. I hope they are spent in the most efficacious manner.
I posted an answer of sorts over in that thread also, there will be an article shortly on a similar approach that we have been messing with for a while.
As to your last question, my main aim is in preserving the movie.
The problem in the past was the laserdisc and DVDs were far too far apart in terms of quality to do a hybrid style project like ocpmovie attempted. I applaud his attempt, but I found the result unwatchable, as I did with my own attempts to do the same type of thing. (i.e. mix the LD caps with the official 2004 DVD).
I realised early on that the only real hope was to get the original elements in whatever form possible and find ways to squeeze the highest possible quality from them.
So although from the outside we look obsessed with sticking with the laserdiscs, the fact is for some scenes the laserdiscs are the only source you can find them (other than a 35mm print). The blackmagic system and some other tools are a direct result of us sticking with working with laserdisc technology and working out ways around its all too obvious limitations.
Hopefully the resulting images will be of a quality to make a hybrid project possible. At the very least we need the SCs and other disc sets captured, cleaned up and stabilised to be able to use them even as an 'automated colour reference' for other sources such as the official DVDs for example.
No matter which way I look at it, it always seems to come back to needing the laserdiscs processed as part of the equation, so we might as well finish that task before moving on to other restoration projects.
Like in production, we are building up toolsets that will be valuable for the next phase whatever that might be.
My hope is that when we are finished with the LDs we will have a suite of tools (and a selection of scenes) that will allow us to tackle a hybrid restoration with a detail level close to or exceeding the 2004 DVDs.
The truth is that a year ago, we didn't have enough to do much more than an archive and touch up of the DC. Embarking on anything else would have been premature and have resulted in something interesting but probably not watchable along the lines of OCPs sets.
It would have been a case of "You're all talk, Hamill. You never even finished Jedi school."
The road has been long, but the lessons learned have been very useful, and the input and ideas from everyone here have been indispensable.
So yeah, I intend more than just a laserdisc restoration, but I still think it is the necessary first step.
I'm looking forward to the HD broadcasts in November to add to the mix...
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Originally posted by: Dufusyte
Thanks Zion.
Btw, may I suggest that XØ Project place at the top of their work list the scenes that have been altered in the SE, for example the Greedo shooting scene, the end of ROTJ, etc. This way, in the unlikely event that the XØ Project dissolves before completing all three movies, at least it will have produced clips of the original movies that are most needed for possible insertion into other projects (see my "Dream Project" above - Rune's type project would need polished clips of the "un-SE" version of the scenes Lucas has tampered with).
Thanks Zion.
Btw, may I suggest that XØ Project place at the top of their work list the scenes that have been altered in the SE, for example the Greedo shooting scene, the end of ROTJ, etc. This way, in the unlikely event that the XØ Project dissolves before completing all three movies, at least it will have produced clips of the original movies that are most needed for possible insertion into other projects (see my "Dream Project" above - Rune's type project would need polished clips of the "un-SE" version of the scenes Lucas has tampered with).
Personally I want to see ANH completed in its entirety, but for the other two movies I will be focussing on doing just the changed scenes first.
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Originally posted by: hairy_hen
Are you guys considering using the ntsc version of the GOUT for the opening shot of the movie?
I can't speek for the X0 team, but it seems to me that preserving from the official DVD would cross a line... they're preserving the LD, not making copies of the DVD. Are you guys considering using the ntsc version of the GOUT for the opening shot of the movie?
<blockquote>Originally posted by: BadAssKeith
You are passing up on a great opportunity to makes lots of money,
make Lucas lose a lot of his money
and make him look bad to the entire world
and you could be well known and liked
None of us here like Lucas or Lucasfilm.
I have death wishes on Lucas and Macullum.
we could all probably get 10s of thousands of dollars!
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The Star Wars trilogy. There can be only one.
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Originally posted by: Dunedain
All available sources are legit to use to reach the final end result. It's not copying; it's preserving, restoring and correcting to make the Star Wars trilogy look as much like it did in theaters on the various opening days as possible.
All available sources are legit to use to reach the final end result. It's not copying; it's preserving, restoring and correcting to make the Star Wars trilogy look as much like it did in theaters on the various opening days as possible.
You sure? I'm pretty sure those garbage mattes they are fixing were in the theatrical version.
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The Star Wars trilogy. There can be only one.
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Originally posted by: Dunedain
It's my understanding that such things are visible on the releases we buy in stores as some sort of by-product of the home video process. In theaters on opening day they weren't visible.
It's my understanding that such things are visible on the releases we buy in stores as some sort of by-product of the home video process. In theaters on opening day they weren't visible.
Well my dad saw it in theaters and he says the garbage mattes were there too. He didn't mind them though. He remembers them because he said it makes it feel like a video game so I'm not sure if they were there.