Originally posted by: zombie84
Thats actually very true. Works of art survive by the general consensus of the population. Its like the idea of a meme. If a work is not loved, then it withers away and is forgotten, for it has nothing of value to bring to society. If a work is loved then it is cherished and remembered, for it has something of value to bring to society. Society loved the OT with as much love as the public could have for a film series but its reaction to the PT was one of indifference, at best. The PT will sort of fade away, simply because society wont let it be recognized in the same category as Star Wars or the OOT. Why do you think Lucas is so worried to release the OOT? The decision to only have the OT-SE because "thats the one that is good and thats the one he wants the public to remember" smacks of insecurity at its most blatant. If it is as good as Lucas thinks then society will embrace it regardless of his actions or statements. And Lucas knows that society will reject the SE and uphold the OOT, which is why he has been so active to work against this. But he cant stop it. He can't change society, for all his power and control in every other facet of his life. Public opinion is the one thing that we control.
Thats actually very true. Works of art survive by the general consensus of the population. Its like the idea of a meme. If a work is not loved, then it withers away and is forgotten, for it has nothing of value to bring to society. If a work is loved then it is cherished and remembered, for it has something of value to bring to society. Society loved the OT with as much love as the public could have for a film series but its reaction to the PT was one of indifference, at best. The PT will sort of fade away, simply because society wont let it be recognized in the same category as Star Wars or the OOT. Why do you think Lucas is so worried to release the OOT? The decision to only have the OT-SE because "thats the one that is good and thats the one he wants the public to remember" smacks of insecurity at its most blatant. If it is as good as Lucas thinks then society will embrace it regardless of his actions or statements. And Lucas knows that society will reject the SE and uphold the OOT, which is why he has been so active to work against this. But he cant stop it. He can't change society, for all his power and control in every other facet of his life. Public opinion is the one thing that we control.
Just to expand upon this, what moments in the PT have been noted as timeless so far? I know, to quote Bill James, that "...it's impossible to anticipate history", but are there any moments in the PT which compare to any of the following?
- "Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi. You're my only hope."
- Luke staring into the sunset as the Force theme plays, frustrated by "going nowhere"
- "I must face him alone.", later followed by, "I've been waiting for you, Obi-Wan."
- Obi-Wan grinning slyly as he bows to accept his end at the blade of Vader
- The entire rest of the film starting with Red Leader's demise
- The Falcon pursued through asteroids
- Luke's failure at the cave
- Lando's betrayal and Han's freezing: "I know."
- "No...I...am your father"
- Yoda's death and the Emperor's arrival on the Death Star
- "It's a trap!!"
- The Emperor's constant taunting of Luke, especially, "You, like your father, are now...mine."
- Father and son cross sabers before the Emperor
- Vader's last psychological ploy, threatening Leia, goading Luke into action
- Luke vanquishes Vader before rejecting the Emperor: "Never. I'll never turn to the dark side. You've failed, your highness. I am a Jedi, like my father before me."
- Justifying Luke's faith, Anakin returns to the light and slays his former master
- "Tell your sister...you were right."
- Luke witnesses his father redeemed in the light with Obi-Wan and Yoda
Honestly, there is one PT moment that has the same amount of gravitas for me:
"Anakin, my allegiance is to the Republic! To DEMOCRACY!!"
I wish they hadn't used "You were the chosen one!" in the trailers, or that might have been another moment I would have liked. But showing it in trailers let all the air out of that balloon.