I don't see a huge problem with telekinesis at all. I'm almost certain that Darth Vader used telekinesis to put the strangle on that whiny jerk in the original Star Wars. The only problem, and I do remember this as being odd in Empire, is the number of objects and the ease with which Vader threw them around. That seemed a bit extreme to suddenly have taking place and made me think twice as a kid. But, there was nothing in the earlier scenes or the previous movie that really contradicted this, and you could argue that there were no battles or situations where the power would have come up.

Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic

To me ANH doesn't stand up to such strict applications of logic either, so it's all just more of what makes Star Wars what Star Wars is to me.

The original Star Wars (ANH) has a wonderfully solid story that works every time. If it didn’t, I still wouldn’t enjoy it as an adult as I did as a child. Sure, you’re right, it has many problems, and I even made a whole, very-long list of them a short while ago, but those problems are always small issues (like how did the exhaust port vulnerability come about?). There aren’t any major plot points that fall apart like with what we see in Revenge of the Sith. The basic concepts of the first film function at a sufficient level.

Beyond logical criticisms though, there is also emotional motivation. In other words, are the characters likable and do they feel about things in an authentic way? The original Star Wars has this in spades. Empire and Jedi are also very good with this. For me, AotC is the worst film of the PT in this sense. The dialogue, acting, and supposed motivations leave me with nothing to enjoy or become fond of. Revenge of the Sith, while it has the most genuine emotions and involvement with the characters, falls apart the minute Anakin goes psycho. That’s why the Phantom Menace is the highest on my enjoyment factor from the PT. It’s not a great film, but I can follow it and enjoy its lighthearted moments.

Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic

I appreciate fantastic things like these because they ignite my imagination to come up with other possiblities that could make sense of them.

I understand that. I have the same tendencies and I usually get that same enjoyment too.

The secondary reason I made this thread was to have you actually post the things you generally enjoy about the prequel movies and the “saga” and not just defend problems with the films. If you focus on the films in a way that is different from me, and enjoy them on that level, then I would want to understand that point of view. At the same time I would have hoped you could try to understand my point of view.

Oh, and I apologize, Go-Mer, if I seemed too critical in my latest posts. The ethics, morals, and religious ideas to Star Wars are what I value thinking about the most. The prequel trilogy, for me, is just insulting in this area (considering Anakin’s story). It’s as if George Lucas wasn’t even trying, unfortunately. That combined with how it seemed as if you were only nitpicking my values (and not trying to understand them) left me in an overly aggressive mood, I think.