Originally posted by: Trooperman
You fellows have some really good ideas. If you have time, I was wondering if you could check this out and leave any ideas on Anakin's "seduction", and how he should be likeable at first, etc.
That might be very difficult if you're starting with what was actually filmed. The parts where he is friendly to people and not complaining about everything could help. The parts where he shows all of his concern and care for his wife might also help too. I don't know.
Heh, a possible angle would be to make it like a horror film. Then all of the inside-Anakin's-head narration could slowly reveal his unstable and completely-self-centered thoughts as time goes on. Then display all of his horrible actions in that light but with horror-movie music.
Ahh, yeah, very true. I don’t mean to imply that I could never see Darth Vader killing children. Darth Vader is an evil person after all. But, we needed a reason for it.
For instance, in the original Star Wars, Tarkin blows up a planet filled with innocents and Vader helps him do it. In that case it is an act of war, and the innocents were not Vader’s target but the rebels instead.
In the attack on the temple on the other hand, it was close quarters combat, and Anakin had every chance to stop himself from killing the youngest children with the rest who would not submit. There was no reason offered for why they needed to die beyond an unrelated dream sequence and a promise of help from an evil and untrustworthy man. Absolutely sick.
Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
He could tell himself he's doing it for Padme (after having been seduced by the power of the dark side and resisting it a lot), maybe vowing to use the power once to save her. He does, but then he realizes how wonderful this new power is and refuses to give it up. There we have the wrong thing done for an arguably right reason (in fact, an ethical choice outlined in the definition of a tragedy: a choice between something that's ethically right and something not inherently ethically wrong) but then the choice to keep it when there's nothing at stake except for his own greed. His change to evil forces Padme to leave him, thereby losing the wife he just saved. Now that's much more compelling and leaves him with a much more lasting reason to stay with Palpatine.
You fellows have some really good ideas. If you have time, I was wondering if you could check this out and leave any ideas on Anakin's "seduction", and how he should be likeable at first, etc.
That might be very difficult if you're starting with what was actually filmed. The parts where he is friendly to people and not complaining about everything could help. The parts where he shows all of his concern and care for his wife might also help too. I don't know.
Heh, a possible angle would be to make it like a horror film. Then all of the inside-Anakin's-head narration could slowly reveal his unstable and completely-self-centered thoughts as time goes on. Then display all of his horrible actions in that light but with horror-movie music.
Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
I agree with most of what you're saying, Tiptup. I really don't mind the children slaughtering, but it needed to have a more compelling reasoning behind it. In the original, if Anakin had convinced himself that the Jedi were evil, then maybe killing children would seem justified. But for Anakin killing children in the hope of saving his wife... I don't buy it.
I agree with most of what you're saying, Tiptup. I really don't mind the children slaughtering, but it needed to have a more compelling reasoning behind it. In the original, if Anakin had convinced himself that the Jedi were evil, then maybe killing children would seem justified. But for Anakin killing children in the hope of saving his wife... I don't buy it.
Ahh, yeah, very true. I don’t mean to imply that I could never see Darth Vader killing children. Darth Vader is an evil person after all. But, we needed a reason for it.
For instance, in the original Star Wars, Tarkin blows up a planet filled with innocents and Vader helps him do it. In that case it is an act of war, and the innocents were not Vader’s target but the rebels instead.
In the attack on the temple on the other hand, it was close quarters combat, and Anakin had every chance to stop himself from killing the youngest children with the rest who would not submit. There was no reason offered for why they needed to die beyond an unrelated dream sequence and a promise of help from an evil and untrustworthy man. Absolutely sick.
Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
He could tell himself he's doing it for Padme (after having been seduced by the power of the dark side and resisting it a lot), maybe vowing to use the power once to save her. He does, but then he realizes how wonderful this new power is and refuses to give it up. There we have the wrong thing done for an arguably right reason (in fact, an ethical choice outlined in the definition of a tragedy: a choice between something that's ethically right and something not inherently ethically wrong) but then the choice to keep it when there's nothing at stake except for his own greed. His change to evil forces Padme to leave him, thereby losing the wife he just saved. Now that's much more compelling and leaves him with a much more lasting reason to stay with Palpatine.
That would have also worked. He betrays the Jedi and does save his wife. Then he doesn’t want to give up the evil he’s chosen for himself. I like that idea.