Originally posted by: THX
zombie84, thanks for drawing together all your research into one post like that - an excellent resource. It certainly agrees with everything I know about the "restorations."
Scruffy, I have been meaning to post something similar to what you said about existing hi-res digital files of the OUT being available. Unfortunately, however, I do not agree entirely with your post (I wish I did!).
Agreed: the '04 original, untimed HD scans are likely to still exist, and represent a useable resource for OUT digital restoration. However, the SE changes represent considerably more than 10% of that version, when you take into account all the digital recompositing and remaking of all the wipes and dissolves. Anyway, let's say there's something more than 50% and less than 90% of the OUT available from this source (depending on your POV on recompositing - I'd be happy to accept that aspect of the SE to get these scans).
Now, to fill in the gaps, you suggest using material digitized in '97 for the making of the SE. However, as zombie pointed out, all those recomps were made from the original elements and there would be no reason to scan & restore the material that was being jettisoned (the cut negative of the optical composites). It's possible that some of this stuff was scanned for reference for the digital compositors, but in any case it wouldn't have received the restoration that was done for the stuff that was going to survive into the SE.
So, you're still looking for a hi-res scan of quality elements of anything not in the '97 SE. Would the parts of the original cut negative that were removed have been kept? Again, probably. Do they represent quality elements for new scans? Well, if zombie's description of the '97 restoration is accurate (which I think it is), then probably not - you'd have to go the IP for some of that stuff. Again, those parts of the same IP that were (not) used in the '97 restoration are probably in optimal storage and could be scanned and used, but I don't think the entire OUT is in hi resolution on LFL hard drives right now.
zombie84, thanks for drawing together all your research into one post like that - an excellent resource. It certainly agrees with everything I know about the "restorations."
Scruffy, I have been meaning to post something similar to what you said about existing hi-res digital files of the OUT being available. Unfortunately, however, I do not agree entirely with your post (I wish I did!).
Agreed: the '04 original, untimed HD scans are likely to still exist, and represent a useable resource for OUT digital restoration. However, the SE changes represent considerably more than 10% of that version, when you take into account all the digital recompositing and remaking of all the wipes and dissolves. Anyway, let's say there's something more than 50% and less than 90% of the OUT available from this source (depending on your POV on recompositing - I'd be happy to accept that aspect of the SE to get these scans).
Now, to fill in the gaps, you suggest using material digitized in '97 for the making of the SE. However, as zombie pointed out, all those recomps were made from the original elements and there would be no reason to scan & restore the material that was being jettisoned (the cut negative of the optical composites). It's possible that some of this stuff was scanned for reference for the digital compositors, but in any case it wouldn't have received the restoration that was done for the stuff that was going to survive into the SE.
So, you're still looking for a hi-res scan of quality elements of anything not in the '97 SE. Would the parts of the original cut negative that were removed have been kept? Again, probably. Do they represent quality elements for new scans? Well, if zombie's description of the '97 restoration is accurate (which I think it is), then probably not - you'd have to go the IP for some of that stuff. Again, those parts of the same IP that were (not) used in the '97 restoration are probably in optimal storage and could be scanned and used, but I don't think the entire OUT is in hi resolution on LFL hard drives right now.