Originally posted by: Jumpman
CO,
Excellent points. Episode I is the biggest culprit but it still works. I don't really think Episodes II and III cater to kids at all. I mean, in tone, those two films together are a bit more serious than Episodes V and VI. But, again, that has alot to do with the fact that good guys get their asses handed to them at the end of Episode III.
CO,
Excellent points. Episode I is the biggest culprit but it still works. I don't really think Episodes II and III cater to kids at all. I mean, in tone, those two films together are a bit more serious than Episodes V and VI. But, again, that has alot to do with the fact that good guys get their asses handed to them at the end of Episode III.
It isn't necessarily the story that determines the whether a movie is dark or not, cause honestly AOTC is the darkest in a sense that Palpatines plan is right in front of ObiWans face on Kamino, and he doesn't know it. The one great scene I love in the PT is ObiWan staring at the Clones and the Empire music plays louder and louder.
It is very hard to explain, but Episode II & III still cater to kids, much less of a level than TPM, but it still does. If you notice Jumpman, ANH & ESB have mostly humans throughout the movies, and very little aliens. ANH only has aliens with the Jawas, Sandpeople, and then the Cantina bar which is purposely done by Lucas to show all the hive and scum, but after that Humans dominate the movie. There is something more realistic in drama and dialogue when it comes from a human, it just feel more real.
ESB is the same, other than Yoda, and he was done so well by Frank Oz, it almost defies logic how fuckin real that puppet is! But you still have most of the movies, with the exception of the bounty hunters as humans: all the men on Vaders Star Destroyer, Lando and all the civilians on Cloud City.
Then jump to ROTJ, and it is alien-fest. Now if you do an alien or creature right like Yoda or Jabba, it can come as cool as hell, and gives that richness to the movies. But ROTJ is littered with so many aliens in jabbas palace, and then you have the Ewoks, and then you even have aliens on the rebellion now! Though the guy with the big eye who says, "Its a trap!" is pretty cool.
Then you go to the PT and it is alien/creature fest gone wild. The PT movies have too many damn aliens, and not enough humans to keep that seriousness and drama. Dex at the diner is a joke, The Trade Federation guys in TPM are just not cool, General Grevious is lame, but Count Dooku is my favorite villain in the PT, cause he is human and just comes off as believable as he is tempting Kenobi in AOTC.
As I said when you make an alien/creature in SW, it is hit or miss, and the PT & ROTJ are populated by too many misses that make the movies laughable in some parts, that is the difference with ANH & ESB where they are in the movies on a much minor scale.