Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
I don't dislike the PT. I think it's entertaining. Some parts are even great. However, some parts are completely cringeworthy. Revenge of the Sith made me laugh at the deaths of children, which means that something was horribly wrong with that scene. You are laughing at the deaths of children, and it's the "scene" that's wrong? I have to say I was in tears for that bit. It hit me really hard when he ignighted his saber on opening night. Every time since I can try to hold it back for that scene, but in the next one when Padme breaks down I always lose it still.
Yes, because if the scene had been executed effectively, it wouldn't have come off as comedic. I admit that the parts you mentioned are pretty good, but as soon as they start mourning the loss of "younglings", I can't help but bust a gut every single time. The most ridiculous word in the world, and every time I heard Ewan McGregor say it, it sounds like he's having trouble spewing out that piece of dialogue.
No, he made them "out of order" because that's the only story there was. What little prequel stuff there was was simply backstory in order for him to have a history for the characters he was writing for.
Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
The 6 part tragedy (when, in reality, it doesn't even fit the classification of a tragedy to begin with) of Anakin Skywalker just doesn't fly. The PT is Anakin's story. But the OT is Luke's story. It always was. And saying it's not doesn't change anything.
The whole saga is Anakin's story, but I agree the classic trilogy is still primarily Luke's story with a cameo by Anakin in the end when he finaly "returns". I don't dislike the PT. I think it's entertaining. Some parts are even great. However, some parts are completely cringeworthy. Revenge of the Sith made me laugh at the deaths of children, which means that something was horribly wrong with that scene. You are laughing at the deaths of children, and it's the "scene" that's wrong? I have to say I was in tears for that bit. It hit me really hard when he ignighted his saber on opening night. Every time since I can try to hold it back for that scene, but in the next one when Padme breaks down I always lose it still.
Yes, because if the scene had been executed effectively, it wouldn't have come off as comedic. I admit that the parts you mentioned are pretty good, but as soon as they start mourning the loss of "younglings", I can't help but bust a gut every single time. The most ridiculous word in the world, and every time I heard Ewan McGregor say it, it sounds like he's having trouble spewing out that piece of dialogue.
Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
But I find the movies enjoyable enough. I didn't, however, ever think that we were "supposed" to watch them in numerical order. That thought never entered my mind, and I can't believe that's the view that George is trying to press. For me it was the way he numbered them that clued me into that prospect.
Ha ha. He wanted to number the first movie Episode IV, so it would feel like you were coming in in the middle of a Saturday matinee serial, not because he had plans for other movies to come before it. So when he did get that idea, what other logical conclusion could you come to besides naming earlier stories I, II, and III" So you can see why the numbering alone wouldn't convince me that they're intended to be watched in numerical order.
Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Once again, if he'd wanted them to be watched that way, he would have made them that way.
According to Lucas, he made them out of order for a couple of reasons. 1) He figured the ANH part of the story was the most straightforward for an audience. 2) He felt he could pull off the 2nd half of the story easier because it all takes place away from the center of the universe, so he wouldn't have to render something as ambitious as Couruscant. But I find the movies enjoyable enough. I didn't, however, ever think that we were "supposed" to watch them in numerical order. That thought never entered my mind, and I can't believe that's the view that George is trying to press. For me it was the way he numbered them that clued me into that prospect.
Ha ha. He wanted to number the first movie Episode IV, so it would feel like you were coming in in the middle of a Saturday matinee serial, not because he had plans for other movies to come before it. So when he did get that idea, what other logical conclusion could you come to besides naming earlier stories I, II, and III" So you can see why the numbering alone wouldn't convince me that they're intended to be watched in numerical order.
Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Once again, if he'd wanted them to be watched that way, he would have made them that way.
No, he made them "out of order" because that's the only story there was. What little prequel stuff there was was simply backstory in order for him to have a history for the characters he was writing for.
Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
The 6 part tragedy (when, in reality, it doesn't even fit the classification of a tragedy to begin with) of Anakin Skywalker just doesn't fly. The PT is Anakin's story. But the OT is Luke's story. It always was. And saying it's not doesn't change anything.
No, the whole saga is not Anakin's story. That doesn't make any sense. That would be like saying that The Winter's Tale is simply Hermione's story. If there must be a saga, it is shared by Luke and Anakin, but the whole thing by any stretch of the literary imagination, is not belonging to Anakin. He might be the Macguffin, but he's not the main character.